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Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:31 am
by BaggyTrousers
BR wrote:I would rather one person wear a poppy with pride than 100 wear it because it expected.
In a nutshell.
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:40 am
by Cockatrice
BaggyTrousers wrote:BR wrote:I would rather one person wear a poppy with pride than 100 wear it because it expected.
In a nutshell.
baggy… agree wholeheartedly but just like it seems people are pressurised into wearing them on TV I wonder if either Ulster operate under direction or feel pressured from the IRFU.
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:47 am
by Russ
Believe there is a directive from the TV companies that if you want to appear on TV you wear a poppy, which is why the outrage over seliba miller.
Conversely, BoDPR wouldn't want to give up the lucrative endorsements and TV appearances, nor harm his image so much that a little club in Antrim wouldn't pay him £26k for 3 hours work and wouldn't meet the minis on a training field
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:52 am
by thecrouch
IMO the poppy is in danger of becoming a farce. The poppy is turning into a fashion statement, with everyone competing with everyone else to see who can out-poppy who.
Wear one or don't. This whole business of monitoring who does or who doesn't is pretty disrespectful and this modern business of putting it on shirts is tacky.
And the Belfast Telegraph can go feck itself.
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:41 am
by BR
BaggyTrousers wrote:BR wrote:I would rather one person wear a poppy with pride than 100 wear it because it expected.
In a nutshell.
In fact, I would go so far as to say, I would prefer an individual to make a conscious decision NOT to wear a poppy than to wear one because everyone else is.
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:44 am
by Gary
Much more sense being spoken here than on that Bakebook page. Still, lots of folk over there, even a frustrated me, were pointing out the contradiction between forcing, or strongly urging, people to wear poppies in honour of those heroes who fought and died so that we could make up our own minds about such things.
Fully support BR in his very succinct opinion.
Like Baggy, I've been disgusted by Bakebook "friends" liking and sharing the vicious, fascist bile emanating from Britain First. I have spent the last week pointing out to these friends, giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are ignorant of BF's real face, that I rather think they shouldn't be doing this. From today, I will follow Baggy's example and show them the door. Regrettably most of these are Ulster rugby friends but there you go.
Now, rugby. Game was better than I hoped and so I'm happy. p had an excellent match, but I was still happier when the Blessed One came on. Nelson, Jackson, and Henry impressed and I was delighted by McCall. Mulholland had to be taken off as I think he'd loss confidence at the back of the scrum, but overall didn't look out of place. Darren Cave was excellent and I hope Kiss starts pestering the life out of Herr Schmidt about who is Ireland's best 13
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:44 am
by big mervyn
The whole thing is a bit of an indictment on a society that sends young men and women of to be killed and maimed(increasingly for political rather than moral reasons) and then expects them to rely on charity for their welfare. Doesn't happen in Israel.
I see Nolan was stirring it up this morning despite a very reasonable statement from UR.
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:53 am
by Gary
If anybody is unsure of the evil of Britain First, this might be interesting
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/worl ... -them.html
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:55 am
by thecrouch
big mervyn wrote:
I see Nolan was stirring it up this morning despite a very reasonable statement from UR.
This was on Nolan?
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:04 pm
by Russ
thecrouch wrote:big mervyn wrote:
I see Nolan was stirring it up this morning despite a very reasonable statement from UR.
This was on Nolan?
UR PR nightmare
Maybe that's why the former head of communications who stalks Linkedin jumped ship?
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:09 pm
by Blow in
Is it me or is it hard work watching Ulster at the moment? they seem to have no idea of what style they want to play or how to play it.
Dose'nt say much for our development of players when you have 5 South Africans on the pitch
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:15 pm
by damianmcr
The BT has a news story about the ulster poppy Facebook incident. What a load of tom kite. The BT is utter garbage.
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:18 pm
by Dan Dare
Blow in wrote:Is it me or is it hard work watching Ulster at the moment? they seem to have no idea of what style they want to play or how to play it.
Dose'nt say much for our development of players when you have 5 South Africans on the pitch
It's just you.
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:19 pm
by Cornerfleg
Either keep 5 Saffers on the pitch and aspire to mid table mediocrity or pack the team full of locals and fight it out with Zebre.
I don't get the optimism boys, sorry - shoot me down - but - that was the feckin Dragons - not a European power house ... we are being left behind. Our kids are either not being coached, developed, stimulated or have enough talent, poor Glocks had ideas but big schools want to win the Schools cup and feck what comes after that, the good kids are being ruined or sickened.
Debutants are not hitting the ground running - I agree with Snipe poor Mullholland was probably subbed as he had lost confidence - when Chris went to 8 the difference in control was too big to be funny ... the guy might be a good prospect but he's coming on cold to a mid table dirge fest in a very weak league ... and he doesn't seem to have had a pit lane to get used to the speed increase ... wait till the bigger NH clubs strangle us ... and then when we're thoroughly depressed about SID ....
Take a wee look at the SH teams next year - all their stars have retired or moved to France - wait till you see the feckin skills and talent of the 20 somethings coming through in South Africa, New Zealand and Australia ... then get back to me, and ask why we need 5 Saffers on the pitch to stay mid table.
Re: Dragons v Ulster Sun 8th Nov 2:30pm Dave Parade BBCNI
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:26 pm
by thecrouch
damianmcr wrote:The BT has a news story about the ulster poppy Facebook incident. What a load of tom kite. The BT is utter garbage.
The "journalist" who wrote it is a member of the bakebook group.