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Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:03 pm
by Eggs
Quote from Wayne Barnes just now- "its a yellow card because there is no intent"
The inconsistency of this is exasperating
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:06 pm
by for dog and ulcer
Eggs wrote:Quote from Wayne Barnes just now- "its a yellow card because there is no intent"
The inconsistency of this is exasperating
Especially after all the discussion!
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:07 pm
by Russ
On the basis of Payne. That was a red card
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Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:11 pm
by Eggs
Russ wrote:On the basis of Payne. That was a red card
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That was exactly my thought when I saw it, if intent is irrelevant, you come offside and kick a player in the head, red card
It shouldn't be, but if thats the rules then thats what should happen.
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:21 pm
by 10 or 15 only
Windy has his say
Courtesy of the official site
http://youtu.be/6Qy9Mn5cQ8Y
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:16 pm
by damianmcr
Anyone watching Clermont v Perpignan?
Two players jumped for a ball. Perpignan player clearly had his eyes on the ball but was sent to the bin. Nothing wrong with the Clermont player either.
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:56 pm
by Ithryn
Yeah I just saw that.
The IRB need to address this. Both players jump for the ball, it was spilled, parra milked it a bit and Perpignan player got binned.
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:58 pm
by pip14
It's becoming ridiculous. The yellow card for Perpignan is beyond me
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:10 pm
by DHK
The inconsistency is infuriating. Just watched Stormers v Highlanders. Tip tackle exactly like last night and only a yellow.
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 11:11 pm
by Rooster
Caroline Crawford – Published 06 May 2014 02:03 PM
IRELAND coach Joe Schmidt has warned that the red-carding of Ulster's Jared Payne in the Saracens match has changed the landscape of rugby.
Mr Schmidt was speaking at an event at NUI, Galway where he warned that the decision would now force coaches to change the advice they give to their players.
"I feel he was unjustly red-carded by the referee. I think that was a massive blow for Ulster at the time. But it has changed the landscape and one of the things I would have said to anyone chasing the ball is it's just you and the ball," he said.
"If you're chasing the ball and it's coming down. You are trying to judge the speed of descent of the ball and trying to judge how far you need to go to get to it...You don't do that by looking around at whose there. You do that by fully committing to the ball and judging the speed of the ball. The landscape has changed just a fraction," he warned.
Mr Schmidt questioned what advice coaches could now give their players in the wake of the decision.
"They've said now it's the responsibility of the player on the ground to make sure they don't bang into anybody who has gone up in the air. What do I do now? Do I just say it's you and the ball, there's a risk in that because I might get a guy red-carded. Is that good coaching?"
"Those are the challenges. It's a very small thing but very small things win very big test matches," he added.
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 11:28 pm
by Wee Woman
It's good to see International coaches like Schmidt raise this. Hopefully the IRB are listening.
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:57 am
by davejohnston
I'm liking this Schmidt fella more and more
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:34 am
by Dan Dare
"Small things wun very big tist matches" for sure
Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:50 am
by rumncoke
Basically the Schmidt is in the you can't and won't stop collisions camp unless you change the Laws and the refs are trying to impose an impossible duty of care
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Re: IRB: Payne decision correct
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:41 am
by BaggyTrousers
I'm not quite sure what anyone expected Schmidt to say other than that.
"Kiwi defends Kiwi shocker as the Schmidt hits the fans".
I'm tending not to trust many Kiwis these days.