Ulster Fans Racial Abuse

the original kimble · Post by **the original kimble** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:17 pm

Sonz,

Very funny! Brightened up my day!

Just hope I don't get caught in the crossfire!

tok

ali c · Post by **ali c** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:14 pm

it's been a week now, any developments

colinh · Post by **colinh** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:29 pm

ali c wrote:it's been a week now, any developments :?:

The silence is deafening.

Cap'n Grumpy · Post by **Cap'n Grumpy** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:52 pm

colinh wrote:The silence is deafening.

Wot?

Cap'n Grumpy · Post by **Cap'n Grumpy** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:18 pm

I knew wot he meant - never mind

Cap'n Grumpy · Post by **Cap'n Grumpy** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:39 pm

LKOTP

YM

but I believe you meant "Aled the tragic dragon",

browner · Post by **browner** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:22 pm

Dragons wait on Ulster verdict

Feb 25 2007

Simon Roberts, Wales on Sunday

DRAGONS will discover later this week if any action will be taken against Ulster after the racism row in Belfast.

The Welsh region have written to Ulster and the Glasgow-based Celtic Rugby Board about the incident at Ravenhill last Friday.

Dragons wing Aled Brew was allegedly a victim of racial abuse from the crowd during the game.

He complained to a touch judge he was being racially abused after only 20 minutes and at half-time during the Magners League clash.

Brew went on to score a try for the Welsh region but the incident is disturbing.

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David Jordan, the Director of Celtic Rugby, revealed a ruling on the incident will be made before next weekend.

"The Dragons have written to us and Ulster about what happened," said Jordan.

"We are now waiting for Ulster to respond before we consider any action.

"These are serious allegations and they need to be investigated.

"Until Ulster carry out their own investigation we can not take any action. But we would like to have this whole issue resolved before the next round of matches in the Magners League, which is next weekend."

Gethin Jenkins, the Dragons' commercial manager, wrote to his Ulster counterparts earlier this week. "There should be no place for this kind of behaviour in rugby," he said.

Wee Woman · Post by **Wee Woman** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:47 am

browner wrote:
"Until Ulster carry out their own investigation we can not take any action.

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Am I missing something here? I thought Ulster had already carried out an investigation (in terms of reviewing tapes, speaking to security etc. etc.) and were waiting on further details from the Dragons????

Think it's the Dragons who need to get their fingers out.

Judith Harrison · Post by **Judith Harrison** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:07 pm

Your 'world' has gone CRAZY, over there!! Accusations of racist taunts should be, well and truly, dealt with by NOW. The process is straight-forward,in any country, I would think...accusations are made,they are investigated (by now!) and any protests/withdrawls resolved..again,by NOW!!

darkside lightside · Post by **darkside lightside** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:26 pm

Dragons claim comes to nothing... quelle surprise..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_u ... 401971.stm

Ulster have told Newport Gwent Dragons and Celtic Rugby that they have not found any evidence of racial abuse by fans at a league game at Ravenhill.
The Dragons had complained that one of their players felt he had been the victim of racial chants during the match against Ulster on 16 February.

Ulster said they had spoken to match officials, players, stewards, police and fans and viewed video footage.

They said they had not found anything to substantiate the Dragons' claims.

According to Ulster, their supporters do have chants which could be misheard.

They said they would increase their level of stewarding even though it was already well above the recommended level.

The Dragons said that, while standing by the claims of their player, they were satisfied by the Ulster response in the matter.

Celtic Rugby said the matter had been dealt with satisfactorily and was now closed.

Unfortunately this is less newsworthy than the accusations, which were emblazoned across the media for a couple of days..

colinh · Post by **colinh** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:32 pm

The statement in full:

Following a letter from Newport Gwent Dragons to Ulster Rugby concerning perceived racial abuse made to one of their players, Ulster Rugby has now formally responded to the concerns raised by Newport Gwent Dragons.

In their response, Ulster Rugby has confirmed to both Newport Gwent Dragons and Celtic Rugby that they have thoroughly investigated this matter and have not been able to substantiate the claims made. Ulster Rugby acknowledges that there is no place whatsoever in our Game for racial abuse or abuse of any kind and have taken the allegations made very seriously. This has included reviewing all available television, video & CCTV footage; obtaining reports from the referee; conducting interviews with touch judges, event management staff & stewards, members of the Ulster Rugby Supporters Club, members of the Ulster match team and medical staff, and the Police Service NI Officer in charge of the venue. Ulster Rugby has reported that these enquiries have not been able to substantiate the claims made.

Ulster Rugby has explained that their supporters do have chants that could be misheard. Ulster Rugby also advises that their stewarding levels are well above those recommended by the Green Guide and have confirmed to the Dragons that they will be increasing their stewarding levels further and will continue to work closely with their Supporters Club to ensure that Ravenhill is a venue that is only intimidating in the extent that it has one of the most vociferous supports in professional club rugby.

Newport Gwent Dragons have acknowledged and thanked Ulster Rugby for the seriousness in which they have viewed this matter and the efforts that Ulster Rugby has gone to in investigating the claims made. Newport Gwent Dragons have confirmed that, while standing by the claim of their player, that they are satisfied with Ulster Rugby's response and that they now consider the matter closed.

As Newport Gwent Dragons has not made a formal approach to Celtic Rugby to intervene in this matter, and since Newport Gwent Dragons have confirmed to Celtic Rugby that they are satisfied with Ulster Rugby's reply, Celtic Rugby considers that the matter has been satisfactorily dealt with by the teams concerned.

Celtic Rugby takes very seriously any allegation of racial abuse and abhors any form of discrimination.

Celtic Rugby is grateful to both clubs for dealing with this issue in a professional manner and recognises the considerable effort that has been taken in investigating this matter.

browner · Post by **browner** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:33 pm

Feel the Dragons response to all of this is very poor...............very disappointing.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:45 pm

What a load of horlix, we get called racists, Dragons believe their player but also believe Ulster investigated and are satisfied with the outcome.
Net result we still may be racists but Dragons don't give a brad pitt, because they caused a media hype that only ruined the name of Ulster fans and their player is squeeky clean and does not need a hearing test.

ibook · Post by **ibook** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:09 pm

Completely disgusted!! Pathetic response by Ulster Rugby

ibook · Post by **ibook** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:18 pm

There is a statement on the Dragon's site and the BBC I wonder if the Ulster Rugby will get round to it sometime and perhaps explain which of the chants can be misheard?

The silence is deafening!