URC 2022/23 - Other Sides

[for dog and ulcer]

Munster lose too. Both Leinster and Munster below par today. Glasgow go to Pretoria. They won't win there.

[Jetstream]

Munster lose too. Both Leinster and Munster below par today. Glasgow go to Pretoria. They won't win there.

Fair play to Glasgow they took their chances. All Irish Provinces seem toothless in attack.They have gone backwards.

[Jetstream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/s/vqPs65l4Yz

Counting your chickens.

[rumncoke]

Counting chickens will always happen in a knock out situation. Both the Bulls and Glasgow have their defence to thank for the win . The Bulls v Leinster was a brutal game with both sides playing off the ball and hitting the margins of late on soft static targets . No arms charges were the order of the day McCarthy got away with a couple.

But the results are an indication that URC is not a soft league second to the either the Premiership or the Top 14 ,every league has its soft weaker sides but the top 4-5 of every league can give any team a run for their money.

The only country at the moment fielding an uncompetive side at that level is Wales were limited talent is being dispersed over 4 sides at the expense of having a competitive top 5 team ( but that may not always be so if they can get the structure and money sorted to much tradition of valley rugby lingering in the mentality.

[CIMANFOREVER]

That wasn't even a full strength Bulls pack or back line.

Leinster deserve everything they get such is their contempt for regular season URC games, its bit them in the arris. Interesting Bulls priotised URC and hence the home pathway now thanks to Weegies.

Munster were "outmunstered in the forwards. I really don't see the love for Jager. Kebble had him under pressure as the sub loosehead. Keeping Snyman etc as bench bomb squad may work against our seconds pack but he was cold coming off the bench and it showed against robust Weegies pack that tends to be underestimated. Little between both teams, but neither would win in Pretoria this year. Munster were under par or maybe more accurately, were caught cold by very aggressive front foot pack/ defence of which Tuipelotu and Matt Fagerson were the best players on the pitch by miles. Munster have a real long term issue at centre.

Pretoria I suspect will, be one game too far to Weegies.
Irish rugby needs to reevaluate, instead of throwing the sink at Leinster success. It's been found out. Questions now rightly asked about Cullen et al. Neinaber gets a byeball this year

[solidarity]

That wasn't even a full strength Bulls pack or back line.

Leinster deserve everything they get such is their contempt for regular season URC games, its bit them in the arris. Interesting Bulls priotised URC and hence the home pathway now thanks to Weegies.

Munster were "outmunstered in the forwards. I really don't see the love for Jager. Kebble had him under pressure as the sub loosehead. Keeping Snyman etc as bench bomb squad may work against our seconds pack but he was cold coming off the bench and it showed against robust Weegies pack that tends to be underestimated. Little between both teams, but neither would win in Pretoria this year. Munster were under par or maybe more accurately, were caught cold by very aggressive front foot pack/ defence of which Tuipelotu and Matt Fagerson were the best players on the pitch by miles. Munster have a real long term issue at centre.

Pretoria I suspect will, be one game too far to Weegies.
Irish rugby needs to reevaluate, instead of throwing the sink at Leinster success. It's been found out. Questions now rightly asked about Cullen et al. Neinaber gets a byeball this year

Been thinking that myself about Cullen. Treating us with disrespect and thereby losing up to half a dozen points has cost them dearly. I wonder if anyone is starting to whisper, 'Leo out.'

[CIMANFOREVER]

I suspect it's started Solidarnosc. Basically most of the Ireland 23. 4 out of front 5, 2 of the back row.9, 12,13, wing and full back. Plus McCarthy, Kelleher, a welter of 10s JOB, Larmour, etc.. Unless some are " empty" caps?.....
Given their concentration of caps, they should be virtually unbeatable in the URC. Only in Europe do they meet that depth. Even stronger next year with Barrett and Snyman. If Cullen doesn't go this time, he'll defo go next year, maybe even if they win URC. The EPCR is their holy grail, ( and FIRFU I suspect) to the detriment to the rest of us, even Turnips, who've been allowed to recruit deeply despite owing the mortgage on Turnip park.
Ireland to lose badly in SA 2-0.

It's not good enough for the GOYS in blue

[chunky]

If Ireland win in SA it really adds another nail into Leo's coffin - same players, different coach, different result - wouldn't bode well for plug?

Also concern for Goodman coming in as Ireland backs coach if he's currently in charge of Leinsters backs - toothless

[CIMANFOREVER]

If Ireland win in SA it really adds another nail into Leo's coffin - same players, different coach, different result - wouldn't bode well for plug?

Also concern for Goodman coming in as Ireland backs coach if he's currently in charge of Leinsters backs - toothless

Agree the optics wouldn't look good for Leo et al.
Their backs weren't great against us and their much vaunted defence still conceded 3 tries Vs us and 3 Vs Bulls. Given the talent, that's a poor return. The nonsense of Keenan playing 7s for Ireland is also BS. Neinaber, TBF is only in the defence role,but Goodmans performance with Ladies attack should indeed be concerning for both Ladies and FIRFU

[justinr73]

Just watched the games after managing to avoid the results.

Enjoyable fare.

SP was tremendous for Glasgow.

Munster will be better with a decent 10 next year.

[Dublin4]

A lot of the points being made here are valid.
The general feeling in Leinste is that we have to go primarily for the Champions Cup and you can understand that if you keep losing finals.
The Irish management would be best advised to rest the Leinster contingent for the tour of SA and let them recover. It is time to let the other provinces show the way. I would let Ringrose go to SA but give the rest a break. It has been 12 months since they started training for the RWC.

[Setanta]

No. Disagree our boys need tlc and a full pre-seaon.

[solidarity]

I wouldn't have these tours at all. Give all the guys a rest, there's too much rugby being played. Full season should be September to May, full stop. Autumn break for North South tours (alternate years in each hemisphere) and Feb/Mar staggered break for 6 nations.

[Bobbievee]

Agreed. Meaningless gamess, meaningless international caps, meaningless losses and wins........but real injuries.

[for dog and ulcer]

I wouldn't have these tours at all. Give all the guys a rest, there's too much rugby being played. Full season should be September to May, full stop. Autumn break for North South tours (alternate years in each hemisphere) and Feb/Mar staggered break for 6 nations.

Totally agree. Then the knock on unavailability because of players being rested or through injury adversely affects the clubs in the Autumn and then there are the Autumn Internationals. Too many games! Both Leinster and Munster looked tired at the weekend and both lost games they normally would not lose.