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Bayern wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:34 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:27 pm Watched quite a bit of Crothers at age grade inter pro and would rate him highly.

Has Oscar Egan disappeared completely? Suffered a pretty horrendous injury.
he is with queens, but overage for 20's.

not sure if he is still in sub-academy.
Thanks, thought he had another year.
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Joe Mawhinney was the highly rated prop at this age grade, he has been playing loosehead, but looks well down the depth chart at ireland u20 level.
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kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:01 pm
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I reckon 2 will come through.

One is on the bench and the other will play maybe a handful of times.


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James mccormick and Reuben Crothers will both have good careers with Ulster.

Everyone knows about Crothers but trust me, Mccormick is an unbelievable talent- Really physical and one of the most skilful players you’ll find in the academy system
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Academy prospects:

LH Prop
Joe Mawhinney(Ballymena/Ballymena/U20)
Cameron Doak(Wallace/U19)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(Wallace/Queens/U19)
Jack Boal(Campbell/U19)

Hooker
Josh Hanlon(Ballynahinch/U19)

Lock
Adam McNamee(Methody/Malone/U20)
John Glasgow(Armagh RFC/Armagh/U20)
Charlie Irvine(Wallace/Queens/U19)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(Exile/Queens/U20)
James McNabney(Cambridge/Ballymena/U19)
Paddy Browne(Ballymena/Ballymena/U19)

Scrumhalf
James Wright(Ballymena/Ballymena/U19)

Outhalf
Reece Malone(Friends/U20)
Ross McKay(Ballymena/Ballymena/U19)

Centre
Ross Taylor(Armagh/Armagh/U19)

Back Three
Rory Telfer(Coleraine/U19)
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ljsulster wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:01 pm
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I reckon 2 will come through.

One is on the bench and the other will play maybe a handful of times.


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James mccormick and Reuben Crothers will both have good careers with Ulster.

Everyone knows about Crothers but trust me, Mccormick is an unbelievable talent- Really physical and one of the most skilful players you’ll find in the academy system
Don’t think either will get more than 10 caps but happy to be told ‘I told you so!!!!’

Having said that, when Matty Rea can get over 50 caps there is hope for most people.


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Bayern wrote:Academy prospects:

LH Prop
Joe Mawhinney(Ballymena/U20)
Cameron Doak(Wallace/U19)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(Queens/U19)
Jack Boal(Campbell/U19)

Hooker
Josh Hanlon(Ballynahinch/U19)

Lock
Adam McNamee(Malone/U20)
John Glasgow(Armagh/U20)
Charlie Irvine(Queens/U19)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(Queens/U20)
James McNabney(Ballymena/U19)
Paddy Browne(BallymenaU19)

Scrumhalf
James Wright(Ballymena/U19)

Outhalf
Reece Malone(U20)
Ross McKay(Ballymena/U19)

Centre
Ross Taylor(Armagh/U19)

Back Three
Rory Telfer(Coleraine/U19)
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Bayern wrote:Academy prospects:

LH Prop
Joe Mawhinney(Ballymena/U20)
Cameron Doak(Wallace/U19)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(Queens/U19)
Jack Boal(Campbell/U19)

Hooker
Josh Hanlon(Ballynahinch/U19)

Lock
Adam McNamee(Malone/U20)
John Glasgow(Armagh/U20)
Charlie Irvine(Queens/U19)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(Queens/U20)
James McNabney(Ballymena/U19)
Paddy Browne(BallymenaU19)

Scrumhalf
James Wright(Ballymena/U19)

Outhalf
Reece Malone(U20)
Ross McKay(Ballymena/U19)

Centre
Ross Taylor(Armagh/U19)

Back Three
Rory Telfer(Coleraine/U19)
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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not a fan of the talent coming through?
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kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Bayern wrote:Academy prospects:

LH Prop
Joe Mawhinney(Ballymena/U20)
Cameron Doak(Wallace/U19)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(Queens/U19)
Jack Boal(Campbell/U19)

Hooker
Josh Hanlon(Ballynahinch/U19)

Lock
Adam McNamee(Malone/U20)
John Glasgow(Armagh/U20)
Charlie Irvine(Queens/U19)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(Queens/U20)
James McNabney(Ballymena/U19)
Paddy Browne(BallymenaU19)

Scrumhalf
James Wright(Ballymena/U19)

Outhalf
Reece Malone(U20)
Ross McKay(Ballymena/U19)

Centre
Ross Taylor(Armagh/U19)

Back Three
Rory Telfer(Coleraine/U19)
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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Bayern wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Bayern wrote:Academy prospects:

LH Prop
Joe Mawhinney(Ballymena/U20)
Cameron Doak(Wallace/U19)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(Queens/U19)
Jack Boal(Campbell/U19)

Hooker
Josh Hanlon(Ballynahinch/U19)

Lock
Adam McNamee(Malone/U20)
John Glasgow(Armagh/U20)
Charlie Irvine(Queens/U19)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(Queens/U20)
James McNabney(Ballymena/U19)
Paddy Browne(BallymenaU19)

Scrumhalf
James Wright(Ballymena/U19)

Outhalf
Reece Malone(U20)
Ross McKay(Ballymena/U19)

Centre
Ross Taylor(Armagh/U19)

Back Three
Rory Telfer(Coleraine/U19)
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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not a fan of the talent coming through?
Not particularly to be honest. Some decent but don’t know how many I see been seasoned professionals.

Even tho the representation at Ireland u20 has been poor over the last number of years I have felt the talent was better than the current crop who are well represented.


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kingofthehill wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:18 am
Bayern wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Bayern wrote:Academy prospects:

LH Prop
Joe Mawhinney(Ballymena/U20)
Cameron Doak(Wallace/U19)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(Queens/U19)
Jack Boal(Campbell/U19)

Hooker
Josh Hanlon(Ballynahinch/U19)

Lock
Adam McNamee(Malone/U20)
John Glasgow(Armagh/U20)
Charlie Irvine(Queens/U19)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(Queens/U20)
James McNabney(Ballymena/U19)
Paddy Browne(BallymenaU19)

Scrumhalf
James Wright(Ballymena/U19)

Outhalf
Reece Malone(U20)
Ross McKay(Ballymena/U19)

Centre
Ross Taylor(Armagh/U19)

Back Three
Rory Telfer(Coleraine/U19)
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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not a fan of the talent coming through?
Not particularly to be honest. Some decent but don’t know how many I see been seasoned professionals.

Even tho the representation at Ireland u20 has been poor over the last number of years I have felt the talent was better than the current crop who are well represented.


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I dunno, of those players listed only McCormick looks to be 1st choice for Ireland U20 this year, several are u19 so have time..
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Bayern wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:18 am
Bayern wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Bayern wrote:Academy prospects:

LH Prop
Joe Mawhinney(Ballymena/U20)
Cameron Doak(Wallace/U19)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(Queens/U19)
Jack Boal(Campbell/U19)

Hooker
Josh Hanlon(Ballynahinch/U19)

Lock
Adam McNamee(Malone/U20)
John Glasgow(Armagh/U20)
Charlie Irvine(Queens/U19)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(Queens/U20)
James McNabney(Ballymena/U19)
Paddy Browne(BallymenaU19)

Scrumhalf
James Wright(Ballymena/U19)

Outhalf
Reece Malone(U20)
Ross McKay(Ballymena/U19)

Centre
Ross Taylor(Armagh/U19)

Back Three
Rory Telfer(Coleraine/U19)
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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not a fan of the talent coming through?
Not particularly to be honest. Some decent but don’t know how many I see been seasoned professionals.

Even tho the representation at Ireland u20 has been poor over the last number of years I have felt the talent was better than the current crop who are well represented.


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I dunno, of those players listed only McCormick looks to be 1st choice for Ireland U20 this year, several are u19 so have time..
Crothers is captain


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My views on prospects nave been voiced frequently

Given retirements and off loads from the Professional squad would average about 4 -5 a year that means only 4-6 are needed to replace those players and not all replacements will be home grown thus the numbers into the Academy is not the be-all and end--all what is necessary is a few players of quality .

Players with attitude as well as skill players with brains as well as brawn .

Very few forwards hit the ground running and have the makings of a professional before the age 23 for them it is a basically a long slog requiring a lot of hard work . Backs seem to make the squad sooner because those in squad become prone to injury(long term ) more often than forwards .

Thus looking at players coming into the Academy is seldom indicative of who will or will not make the contract at the end, for me it is all down to attitude and determination ( do the lads coming into the Academy have those attributes )
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kingofthehill wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:35 am
Bayern wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:18 am
Bayern wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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not a fan of the talent coming through?
Not particularly to be honest. Some decent but don’t know how many I see been seasoned professionals.

Even tho the representation at Ireland u20 has been poor over the last number of years I have felt the talent was better than the current crop who are well represented.


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I dunno, of those players listed only McCormick looks to be 1st choice for Ireland U20 this year, several are u19 so have time..
Crothers is captain


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Crothers wasnt a player listed as he is already in the academy.
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Bayern wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:23 am
kingofthehill wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:18 am
Bayern wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Bayern wrote:Academy prospects:

LH Prop
Joe Mawhinney(Ballymena/U20)
Cameron Doak(Wallace/U19)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(Queens/U19)
Jack Boal(Campbell/U19)

Hooker
Josh Hanlon(Ballynahinch/U19)

Lock
Adam McNamee(Malone/U20)
John Glasgow(Armagh/U20)
Charlie Irvine(Queens/U19)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(Queens/U20)
James McNabney(Ballymena/U19)
Paddy Browne(BallymenaU19)

Scrumhalf
James Wright(Ballymena/U19)

Outhalf
Reece Malone(U20)
Ross McKay(Ballymena/U19)

Centre
Ross Taylor(Armagh/U19)

Back Three
Rory Telfer(Coleraine/U19)
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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not a fan of the talent coming through?
Not particularly to be honest. Some decent but don’t know how many I see been seasoned professionals.

Even tho the representation at Ireland u20 has been poor over the last number of years I have felt the talent was better than the current crop who are well represented.


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I dunno, of those players listed only McCormick looks to be 1st choice for Ireland U20 this year, several are u19 so have time..
Carson and postlewaithe would start at 12 & 13 if fit and available. McCormick and Carothers up front.
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Big-al wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:23 am
Bayern wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:23 am
kingofthehill wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:18 am
Bayern wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:47 pm
Fairly grim looking at that.

Telfor reminds me of a ginger Nevin Spence.


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not a fan of the talent coming through?
Not particularly to be honest. Some decent but don’t know how many I see been seasoned professionals.

Even tho the representation at Ireland u20 has been poor over the last number of years I have felt the talent was better than the current crop who are well represented.


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I dunno, of those players listed only McCormick looks to be 1st choice for Ireland U20 this year, several are u19 so have time..
Carson and postlewaithe would start at 12 & 13 if fit and available. McCormick and Carothers up front.
postlewaithe would start somewhere in the backline more than likely, dunno about carson. Maybe we will find out at some stage.
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