Who will decide

[Dave]

Looks like KRW did tear them a new one. Mutual consent it is.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ot ... 07827.html

[Snipe Watson]

Looks like KRW did tear them a new one. Mutual consent it is.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ot ... 07827.html

If they breached their code of conduct there would be nothing that KRW could do other than negotiate a deal. If they wanted to get out of Ireland, they have got their payout. There were a lot of variables that we didn't know about.

[jean valjean]

Compromise agreement then and not sacked. I hope this message gets out over the next day or two. Disgusting that the disciplinary process had not started but the outcome was already known. I hope the 2 boys have long and successful careers away from this two faced toxic society.

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[jean valjean]

Compromise agreement then and not sacked. I hope this message gets out over the next day or two. Disgusting that the disciplinary process had not started but the outcome was already known. I hope the 2 boys have long and successful careers away from this two faced toxic society.

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[twiglet]

Since Bank of Ireland managed to persuade UR & Irfu not to re-instate the two lads because of a few text messages does that mean that ALL players will have their phones checked by Bank of Ireland to ensure their messages are acceptable.

The treatment of UR smacks of double standards from B of I. We have all known for years that Ulster Rugby gets shafted, in every way, by IRFU - this is just another example.

What now?

First of all get your finances away from Bank of Ireland and tell them why - there are many better accounts out there.

Then lets try to replace Logan with someone who will stand up for the Ulster players and supporters

Then I might renew my season ticket - but NEVER while Logan is CEO

[GUBU]

No harm to the chiefs but PJ should be at one of the top clubs in Europe. There will be a dogfight over him in the top 14. Clermont will be particularly keen considering their form and that awful injury that Lopez suffered. Imagine playing infront of that support.

If Francois Trinh Duc can earn a living as a Fly Half in France, there's hope for you and me, never mind Paddy...

[Snipe Watson]

The IRFU have effectively bought out their contracts. They have come to an agreement and there will be no further action on that front. There could well be lots more to come on the civil side of things.

[Dave]

Banned from playing rugby in Ireland for the rest of their career for what exactly? It wasn't the messages or Gilroy would have been banned too. Now it appears both are having difficulty getting a club. Kunts like BOD and Brian banker wading in too.

[Jackie Brown]

I can see the media and Twatters pursuing them and any club they are linked to. If their agents have any sense they'll keep the cards close to their chest until the ink has dried.

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[Russ]

Has Rob Kearney been sanctioned for sexually harassing a woman on video yet?

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[stickinout]

Compromise agreement then and not sacked. I hope this message gets out over the next day or two. Disgusting that the disciplinary process had not started but the outcome was already known. I hope the 2 boys have long and successful careers away from this two faced toxic society.

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The IRFU certainly didn't paint it as a compromised agreement. the way it was reported was along the lines of the IRFU have revoked their contracts. Always trying to paint themselves in a good light FIRFU. No doubt they tried to tie the lads up in all kinds of confidentiality clauses. Hopefully their lawyers steered them well.

[Cockatrice]

If you want to see bile at its extreme visit Danielle Collins on twitter.... God I hope those names don't sit by and let her get away with this..

Consensual three-sums are degrading and especially when witnessed by another female who sees nothing wrong. At the same I see more than one side to all this but from my reading of this review it may not even have been completed before the trigger was pulled..

I was told last September they would never be back so how does that fit with a review last week..

Anyhow on the principles of this club and its so called family values why does it still support the retaining of a current player recently convicted of DIC. What action did it take against a former player after his second conviction for DIC and what action did it take against a drug user... What message does that send... it OK to drink and drive, its OK to take drugs but its not OK to what?

[twiglet]

From the way Logan was very quick to point out that the withdrawal of sponsorship had absolutely nothing to do with the committee decision to get rid of the lads, it is obvious to me that Bank of Ireland have been hit by a number of supporters moving their accounts.

Lets hope BofI lose many more accounts. Let them see that blackmail won't pay.

Now lets keep pressure on to get rid of spineless Logan

[Bart S]

The Jackson/Olding thing is clearly a divisive issue and to be honest i can see where BOD and Brian Moore are coming from. Unfortunately because some suporters of PJ/SO have tried to pass these off as a few silly texts when a lot of people were genuinely shocked by them has resulted in some people who argued for retaining them being tarnished with the same brush.

I would love to have known hw many players, if the IRFU had told them to hand in their phones for checking in 24 hours would have felt the need to delete messages or images on there? The one person who has tried to make this point was Neil Francis. This is not about excusing what was on there, but recognising that the “problem” identified goes far wider than just these 2 players. I am sure the IRFU know that as well but it would be damaging to say so.

I wpuld say these guys got caught, rather than what some people see, to believe that these are very isolated incidents, in relation to the messages.

As an aside, BOD talking about “consent”education in the context of this is hardly helpful as whilst i doubt it was intentional (some may disagree) it puts the focus back on the trial verdict rather than the messages etc which everyone knows for a fact that they sent.

[Cockatrice]

The Jackson/Olding thing is clearly a divisive issue and to be honest i can see where BOD and Brian Moore are coming from. Unfortunately because some suporters of PJ/SO have tried to pass these off as a few silly texts when a lot of people were genuinely shocked by them has resulted in some people who argued for retaining them being tarnished with the same brush.

I would love to have known hw many players, if the IRFU had told them to hand in their phones for checking in 24 hours would have felt the need to delete messages or images on there? The one person who has tried to make this point was Neil Francis. This is not about excusing what was on there, but recognising that the “problem” identified goes far wider than just these 2 players. I am sure the IRFU know that as well but it would be damaging to say so.

I wpuld say these guys got caught, rather than what some people see, to believe that these are very isolated incidents, in relation to the messages.

As an aside, BOD talking about “consent”education in the context of this is hardly helpful as whilst i doubt it was intentional (some may disagree) it puts the focus back on the trial verdict rather than the messages etc which everyone knows for a fact that they sent.

I too was shocked but by comparison I see an organisation that appears to condone its players drink driving and retaining those convicted of conviction and at the same time not taking immediately action against another player found to be taking banned substances.. I find both those things go against the image now being portrayed as a family friendly club that won't tolerate a drop in its standards... DRUGS or texts.