World cup squad

[CIMANFOREVER]

Andeh was never going to shake things up on the back of a few close knockout games, after winning the 6N.

It’s the original 6N squad (bar one) with the addition of Henshaw, Blade, Frawley and Nash in the backs (two of whom were injured in January and one other subsequently called up) plus Stewart and Tredders in the forwards (both having been added to the 6N squad themselves).

The only fall guy is Larmour the one trick pony, with Nash deservedly coming in.

Let’s hope Bobby gets his hammies right over the summer (and we remember to give him the ball in October).

McCarthy?

[justinr73]

McCarthy was in the 6N squad.

[rumncoke]

McCarthy won't be in the 33 but makes a good addition to a training squad to kick at the back three- high -low - in front or behind them or into space.

The training squad is basically as expected -- recent form means little when your picking for a team --which needs individual and group experience.

Basically in the back three they are all catchers and chasers with Lowe as the long kicker none are try makers except Earls and Stockdale
thus speed is Farrell's plan B Nash and JoB and why Lamour fails to make the squad.Bobby's catch and chase skills let him down but probably the best wing in Ireland at the moment ball in hand --- except wings playing for ireland seldom receive a pass to have ball in hand unless its a 5 metre over lap to the line .

[justinr73]

McCarthy won't be in the 33 but makes a good addition to a training squad to kick at the back three- high -low - in front or behind them or into space.

The training squad is basically as expected -- recent form means little when your picking for a team --which needs individual and group experience.

Basically in the back three they are all catchers and chasers with Lowe as the long kicker none are try makers except Earls and Stockdale
thus speed is Farrell's plan B Nash and JoB and why Lamour fails to make the squad.Bobby's catch and chase skills let him down but probably the best wing in Ireland at the moment ball in hand --- except wings playing for ireland seldom receive a pass to have ball in hand unless its a 5 metre over lap to the line .

You’re thinking of Jack Carty Rum.

McCarthy is the young and fairly aggressive Leinster second row.

[rumncoke]

Sorry about that

But McCarthy won’t make the 33 either but will be first reserve for the 2 row

Second rows Ryan Henderson Bierne Treadwell

With Baird as the ultility forward as is Bierne of course

The reason Treadwell gets the nod is the bulk factor Ireland are light weight in the second row

With the group games in order of play Farrell will need to put points on the board ( trys etc ) a win may not be sufficient

[CIMANFOREVER]

Sorry about that

But McCarthy won’t make the 33 either but will be first reserve for the 2 row

Second rows Ryan Henderson Bierne Treadwell

With Baird as the ultility forward as is Bierne of course

The reason Treadwell gets the nod is the bulk factor Ireland are light weight in the second row

With the group games in order of play Farrell will need to put points on the board ( trys etc ) a win may not be sufficient

Which is why I'm surprised Kleyn wasn't in the 43. Hendo is a risk injury wise.

[justinr73]

Parking Rum’s reasoning for the moment, Murray Kinsella thinks they like Tredwell because he’s dynamic and gives them the mobility they’re after.

I’m not sure we’ve necessarily seen that consistently over the years at Ravenhill but he’s certainly a different player to the lumbering Kleyn, who hasn’t featured at all under AF.

[CIMANFOREVER]

Parking Rum’s reasoning for the moment, Murray Kinsella thinks they like Tredwell because he’s dynamic and gives them the mobility they’re after.

I’m not sure we’ve necessarily seen that consistently over the years at Ravenhill but he’s certainly a different player to the lumbering Kleyn, who hasn’t featured at all under AF.

Klein is a solid, hard scrummaging lock- no frills- tighter scrummager than Treadwell, but agree mobility wise Tredders fits AFs mould. Unfortunately Snyman isn't available obviously but Kleyn similar to Quinn Roux to a large extent. Roux was there for set piece and work in the tight- unspectacular. Kleyn is gnarly. Merely observing Ireland have no other equivalent to a fully fit Hendo for trench warfare that will come with SA and France. Leinster locks can be outmuscled. That was the thinking. Has Hendo the ability to make it through uninjured?

[justinr73]

Parking Rum’s reasoning for the moment, Murray Kinsella thinks they like Tredwell because he’s dynamic and gives them the mobility they’re after.

I’m not sure we’ve necessarily seen that consistently over the years at Ravenhill but he’s certainly a different player to the lumbering Kleyn, who hasn’t featured at all under AF.

Klein is a solid, hard scrummaging lock- no frills- tighter scrummager than Treadwell, but agree mobility wise Tredders fits AFs mould. Unfortunately Snyman isn't available obviously but Kleyn similar to Quinn Roux to a large extent. Roux was there for set piece and work in the tight- unspectacular. Kleyn is gnarly. Merely observing Ireland have no other equivalent to a fully fit Hendo for trench warfare that will come with SA and France. Leinster locks can be outmuscled. That was the thinking. Has Hendo the ability to make it through uninjured?

Not by recent evidence!

AF has been happy to play SA and France this season with JR and TB in the second row and won both. Hendy did feature from the bench v France.

I think they’re wisely trying to avoid engaging in trench warfare. Can’t see Hendy starting in the big games unless TB is moved to 6 I suppose.

I quite like Kleyn tbh, and he’d be handy enough in our squad, but shoe-horning him into a WC didn’t work out too well last time!

[CIMANFOREVER]

He's a much better player this time Justin. But a moot discussion now I suppose.
Lougnman losing to Killer shows AF was taking favourites instead of better in form players, even for the 43 he was worth a punt.

[jean valjean]

Sexton banned for 3 games so will not play again in Ireland.
Means the other outhalves get some gametime before the world Cup, May not harm the world Cup chances too much anyway.

[Jetstream]

Deserved ban and on the lenient side.
I wonder was the half time incident in the tunnel investigated where Sexton, ROG and Sean O'Brien had a flare up. O'Brien seems to lead a charmed life and was brought back into the! Leinster fold despite his alleged piishing over customers in a Dublin pub. I wonder would an Ulster player get off so lightly.

[Jetstream]

Extract from Johnny Sexton's hearing. Leinster was fined 7500 euro but suspended due to their good record,

"In answer to our questions, he said that his intention when he approached the match
officials in Incident 1 was “to let them know he was unhappy with a couple of their big
decisions”. He said he could not now explain why he had done so. He agreed with the
referee’s description of his body language and said he was “venting” as he approached
the match officials. Asked if he was giving the referee a “spray”, he replied that he was
not targeting him individually. He agreed with our question that he was not
“showering him with compliments”. He could not recall how many or which expletives
he used though it “most likely included the f-word”. He said that was more in keeping
with the language he used in the rugby environment"

[Dharper]

Treadwell could very well be leapfrogged by McCarthy. Treadwell has had a few decent cameos for Ire, but frankly, I cant remember a single UR game he’s grabbed it by the scruff of the neck.

McCarhty is a big man, a real athlete, quick, with the advantage of coming through the Leinster coaching system, his skills will be good. Treadwell may sneak in ahead of him re WC, but by the 6ns I’d fancy McCarthy Will clearly be ahead.

[Bobbievee]

How many UR reps in:

Training squad
Travelling squad
Playing 23


6/4/0?

( assuming Tot and IH fit)

May prediction ok so far?