Yep, there wasn’t much fighting for every inch in that second half….solidarity wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:43 pmClearly tactical leaders are iportant but what Ulster need is a leader who can get heads up and bottle back, who can get the rest of the team angry and working together and refusing to take a step back.Big-al wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:16 pmHalfbacks are supposed to be the tactical leaders in any side. Leaders show leadership, but you can’t expect a forward to tell the flyhalf when to kick, just like you can’t expect a flyhalf to be able to advise the locks/hooker what the best lineout throw is.
Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
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The Disciplinary process related to Cian Healy Red Card in the BKT United Rugby Championship Round 9 game against Ulster on Saturday December 3 has been overturned.
After an act of foul play against Ulster player No 2 (Tom Stewart), referee Christophe Ridley showed the Player a Red Card in the 20th minute of the game under Law 9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.
Upon review of the incident, the Panel overseeing the disciplinary process (Robert Milligan KC (Chair, Scotland), Nigel Williams (Wales), Simon Thomas (Wales), deemed that there was sufficient mitigating factors to reduce the Red Card to a Yellow Card. Therefore the Red Card was not upheld and the Player can return to play effective immediately.
After an act of foul play against Ulster player No 2 (Tom Stewart), referee Christophe Ridley showed the Player a Red Card in the 20th minute of the game under Law 9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.
Upon review of the incident, the Panel overseeing the disciplinary process (Robert Milligan KC (Chair, Scotland), Nigel Williams (Wales), Simon Thomas (Wales), deemed that there was sufficient mitigating factors to reduce the Red Card to a Yellow Card. Therefore the Red Card was not upheld and the Player can return to play effective immediately.
Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
I’m surprised that Stewart was not cited because his head is situated squarely on his shoulders
Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
I’m surprised that Stewart was not cited because his head is situated squarely on his shoulders
Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
I (was one of seemingly very few who) thought the red was harsh but the only thing that is clear at the moment is that the game has got itself in a right mess over these incidents.
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I think the only thing that is clear is that Leinster have a big game this weekend and are short of props.
I am surprised that the authorities did not cite Cooney, Hume and Stewart and give them 10 week banns.
The whole thing is a heap of shiiite and reeks. And people wonder why Ulster fans have a chip on their shoulders.
I am surprised that the authorities did not cite Cooney, Hume and Stewart and give them 10 week banns.
The whole thing is a heap of shiiite and reeks. And people wonder why Ulster fans have a chip on their shoulders.
Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
There are doubts over the availability of TF but I’m assuming you have inside info regarding a string of other injuries in the Leinster front row that they’re keeping quiet about?
Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
If Healy was out they would have been depending on Clarkson on the bench. Not ideal against Racing.
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Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
Perhaps they can overturn Stewart, Cooney and Henderson's head injuries so they can play at the weekend?
Player safety comes a distant second to Leinster's Heineken Cup chances it seems. Come on Racing.
Player safety comes a distant second to Leinster's Heineken Cup chances it seems. Come on Racing.
Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
LmaoNeill_M wrote:The Disciplinary process related to Cian Healy Red Card in the BKT United Rugby Championship Round 9 game against Ulster on Saturday December 3 has been overturned.
After an act of foul play against Ulster player No 2 (Tom Stewart), referee Christophe Ridley showed the Player a Red Card in the 20th minute of the game under Law 9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.
Upon review of the incident, the Panel overseeing the disciplinary process (Robert Milligan KC (Chair, Scotland), Nigel Williams (Wales), Simon Thomas (Wales), deemed that there was sufficient mitigating factors to reduce the Red Card to a Yellow Card. Therefore the Red Card was not upheld and the Player can return to play effective immediately.
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Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
Even more dangerous than the physical assaults on the Ulster players is the example being shown to every young rugby player around the world who reads about this.
They are being told if you head but a player or elbow them in the face, it’s just a rugby incident. So go for it, smash anyone if front of you with a forehead or elbow.
What an absolute disgrace. The game of rugby is in trouble.
They are being told if you head but a player or elbow them in the face, it’s just a rugby incident. So go for it, smash anyone if front of you with a forehead or elbow.
What an absolute disgrace. The game of rugby is in trouble.
Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
Via Ruaidhri O'Connor on Twitter, Irish Rugby JournalistNeill_M wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:34 pm The Disciplinary process related to Cian Healy Red Card in the BKT United Rugby Championship Round 9 game against Ulster on Saturday December 3 has been overturned.
After an act of foul play against Ulster player No 2 (Tom Stewart), referee Christophe Ridley showed the Player a Red Card in the 20th minute of the game under Law 9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.
Upon review of the incident, the Panel overseeing the disciplinary process (Robert Milligan KC (Chair, Scotland), Nigel Williams (Wales), Simon Thomas (Wales), deemed that there was sufficient mitigating factors to reduce the Red Card to a Yellow Card. Therefore the Red Card was not upheld and the Player can return to play effective immediately.
Mitigation was Healy's tackle was passive, his feet were planted and no forward momentum, had a high degree of control and Tom Stewart changed direction and dipped.
Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
bulls--t
Healy started low and his head and shoulders came up into the face thus it must be a e red card because Stewart was never in a position to avoid head contact.
if Healy had been going down instead of up it might have been a yellow .
The contact resulted in a head injury and HIA without return to the field of play so not only was it careless but dangerous .
Hume was never in a position to avoid contact with Ringrose nor in a position to prepare his tackle in fact it was Ringrose who hit Hume rather than Hume hitting Ringrose.
The Lowe hit on Cooney was always a red card "a knock blow by the elbow " with a HIA to follow . not careless -- dangerous
Healy started low and his head and shoulders came up into the face thus it must be a e red card because Stewart was never in a position to avoid head contact.
if Healy had been going down instead of up it might have been a yellow .
The contact resulted in a head injury and HIA without return to the field of play so not only was it careless but dangerous .
Hume was never in a position to avoid contact with Ringrose nor in a position to prepare his tackle in fact it was Ringrose who hit Hume rather than Hume hitting Ringrose.
The Lowe hit on Cooney was always a red card "a knock blow by the elbow " with a HIA to follow . not careless -- dangerous
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Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
Furlong out through injury and Leinster short of tight head props. Healy will be their tight head cover on the bench.
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Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1
Judging by the first 3 minutes nobody has told the Racing players they've a game on today.