Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Talk about the men in white, and everything Ulster!!

Moderator: Moderators

StandUp
Warrior Chief
Posts: 1765
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 9:33 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by StandUp »

solidarity wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:43 pm
Big-al wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:16 pm
StandUp wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:47 pm And a few leaders who are capable of recognising when the game plan needs changing in reaction to what is happening on the pitch.
Halfbacks are supposed to be the tactical leaders in any side. Leaders show leadership, but you can’t expect a forward to tell the flyhalf when to kick, just like you can’t expect a flyhalf to be able to advise the locks/hooker what the best lineout throw is.
Clearly tactical leaders are iportant but what Ulster need is a leader who can get heads up and bottle back, who can get the rest of the team angry and working together and refusing to take a step back.
Yep, there wasn’t much fighting for every inch in that second half….
Neill_M
Lord Chancellor
Posts: 8452
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:51 am

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by Neill_M »

The Disciplinary process related to Cian Healy Red Card in the BKT United Rugby Championship Round 9 game against Ulster on Saturday December 3 has been overturned.

After an act of foul play against Ulster player No 2 (Tom Stewart), referee Christophe Ridley showed the Player a Red Card in the 20th minute of the game under Law 9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.

Upon review of the incident, the Panel overseeing the disciplinary process (Robert Milligan KC (Chair, Scotland), Nigel Williams (Wales), Simon Thomas (Wales), deemed that there was sufficient mitigating factors to reduce the Red Card to a Yellow Card. Therefore the Red Card was not upheld and the Player can return to play effective immediately.
Bangors
Novice
Posts: 289
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:35 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by Bangors »

I’m surprised that Stewart was not cited because his head is situated squarely on his shoulders🤔
Bangors
Novice
Posts: 289
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:35 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by Bangors »

I’m surprised that Stewart was not cited because his head is situated squarely on his shoulders🤔
justinr73
Lord Chancellor
Posts: 5907
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:14 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by justinr73 »

I (was one of seemingly very few who) thought the red was harsh but the only thing that is clear at the moment is that the game has got itself in a right mess over these incidents.
Jetstream
Steward
Posts: 818
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:44 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by Jetstream »

I think the only thing that is clear is that Leinster have a big game this weekend and are short of props.
I am surprised that the authorities did not cite Cooney, Hume and Stewart and give them 10 week banns.
The whole thing is a heap of shiiite and reeks. And people wonder why Ulster fans have a chip on their shoulders.
justinr73
Lord Chancellor
Posts: 5907
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:14 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by justinr73 »

There are doubts over the availability of TF but I’m assuming you have inside info regarding a string of other injuries in the Leinster front row that they’re keeping quiet about?
Jetstream
Steward
Posts: 818
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:44 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by Jetstream »

justinr73 wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:53 pm There are doubts over the availability of TF but I’m assuming you have inside info regarding a string of other injuries in the Leinster front row that they’re keeping quiet about?
If Healy was out they would have been depending on Clarkson on the bench. Not ideal against Racing.
paddybrown
Novice
Posts: 144
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:52 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by paddybrown »

Perhaps they can overturn Stewart, Cooney and Henderson's head injuries so they can play at the weekend?

Player safety comes a distant second to Leinster's Heineken Cup chances it seems. Come on Racing.
User avatar
Dave
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 24645
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:27 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by Dave »

Neill_M wrote:The Disciplinary process related to Cian Healy Red Card in the BKT United Rugby Championship Round 9 game against Ulster on Saturday December 3 has been overturned.

After an act of foul play against Ulster player No 2 (Tom Stewart), referee Christophe Ridley showed the Player a Red Card in the 20th minute of the game under Law 9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.

Upon review of the incident, the Panel overseeing the disciplinary process (Robert Milligan KC (Chair, Scotland), Nigel Williams (Wales), Simon Thomas (Wales), deemed that there was sufficient mitigating factors to reduce the Red Card to a Yellow Card. Therefore the Red Card was not upheld and the Player can return to play effective immediately.
Lmao
I have my own tv channel, what have you got?
StandUp
Warrior Chief
Posts: 1765
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 9:33 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by StandUp »

Even more dangerous than the physical assaults on the Ulster players is the example being shown to every young rugby player around the world who reads about this.
They are being told if you head but a player or elbow them in the face, it’s just a rugby incident. So go for it, smash anyone if front of you with a forehead or elbow.
What an absolute disgrace. The game of rugby is in trouble.
Neill_M
Lord Chancellor
Posts: 8452
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:51 am

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by Neill_M »

Neill_M wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:34 pm The Disciplinary process related to Cian Healy Red Card in the BKT United Rugby Championship Round 9 game against Ulster on Saturday December 3 has been overturned.

After an act of foul play against Ulster player No 2 (Tom Stewart), referee Christophe Ridley showed the Player a Red Card in the 20th minute of the game under Law 9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.

Upon review of the incident, the Panel overseeing the disciplinary process (Robert Milligan KC (Chair, Scotland), Nigel Williams (Wales), Simon Thomas (Wales), deemed that there was sufficient mitigating factors to reduce the Red Card to a Yellow Card. Therefore the Red Card was not upheld and the Player can return to play effective immediately.
Via Ruaidhri O'Connor on Twitter, Irish Rugby Journalist

Mitigation was Healy's tackle was passive, his feet were planted and no forward momentum, had a high degree of control and Tom Stewart changed direction and dipped.
rumncoke
Lord Chancellor
Posts: 7893
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:39 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by rumncoke »

bulls--t

Healy started low and his head and shoulders came up into the face thus it must be a e red card because Stewart was never in a position to avoid head contact.

if Healy had been going down instead of up it might have been a yellow .

The contact resulted in a head injury and HIA without return to the field of play so not only was it careless but dangerous .

Hume was never in a position to avoid contact with Ringrose nor in a position to prepare his tackle in fact it was Ringrose who hit Hume rather than Hume hitting Ringrose.

The Lowe hit on Cooney was always a red card "a knock blow by the elbow " with a HIA to follow . not careless -- dangerous
Within this carapace of skepticism there lives an optimist
Jetstream
Steward
Posts: 818
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:44 pm

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by Jetstream »

Furlong out through injury and Leinster short of tight head props. Healy will be their tight head cover on the bench.
User avatar
MightyRearranger
Warrior
Posts: 1095
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:42 am
Location: Lisburn

Re: Leinster v Ulster Sat 3rd Dec 19:35 Viaplay Sports 1

Post by MightyRearranger »

Judging by the first 3 minutes nobody has told the Racing players they've a game on today.
Post Reply