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Re: New CEO

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:45 pm
by ColinM
Dave wrote:Shirley one of those blimps could play loosehead?
The Hond would have seemed an obvious candidate but sadly not

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Re: New CEO

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:49 pm
by BaggyTrousers
ColinM wrote:
BaggyTrousers wrote:
ColinM wrote:Just think, we could relocate Ravenhill downwind by attaching to it the blimps of Mike Reid, Matt Williams, Mark Anscombe, David Humphreys, Neil Doak, Allen Clark, Shane Logan, Cecil Watson, David Nucifora, John Afoa, Charles Piutau, FOLK, the Complainant, the Bank of Ireland, Richard Finlay, BOD, Kearney twins, Luke Fitzgerald, the Hond and all the other Daves.
Image Image Image I guldered first then looked for and didn't see the name Browne, that fecktard needs a blimp of his own, he carries the stench of evil and leaves it in his wake.

I also thought we'd forgiven Charless? :D
Was guaranteed to miss one.

As for forgiving Charles, that would be a bit like moving......

Actually for Charles I blame whoever wouldn't let him come here early, if we had he might have given more of a feck

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I was thinking more of his tweet when he left which appeared to be supportive of Paddy. Other than that, I have few to zero spare fecks for Charless.

It was a crap move that Nucibastard, I assume, would not allow him to come 6-8 months early, it would have meant he did get a taste for the joys of Lionelland.

Re: New CEO

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:32 pm
by Cockatrice
UR appear to be adapting the not being advertised CEO position..

New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:24 am
by rumncoke
Look "Cack" ( o) is auto corrected


An Open or Closed trawl for the post would make no difference .

All interview panels clone like minded incompetents -- it's an inbuilt failing of the system and as individual creativity of the post decreases the opportunity to clone increases .

Thus the odds that any appointed person meeting your approval must be extremely long .

Your post of disapproval of the successful candidate is awaited since the method of selection will not receive your approval .





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Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:26 am
by BR
UlsterNo9 wrote:
stickinout wrote:
Rooster wrote:
BR wrote:?
Might not be one
You mean direct rule from D4 Rooster?

No sign of the good doctor deciding he was coming back to save Ulster Rugby for the second time? I suppose not, as he's not done much over the sheugh yet, his job is unfinished...
Where is this rumour of Humphreys coming from? What credentials does David Humphreys have to be CEO of any company or indeed Ulster?

His current role of Director Of Rugby and previous are very different to a CEO. His education wouldn't lend to it either.
Someone suggested that we may not want/need a CEO.

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:17 am
by ColinM
BaggyTrousers wrote:
ColinM wrote:
BaggyTrousers wrote:
ColinM wrote:Just think, we could relocate Ravenhill downwind by attaching to it the blimps of Mike Reid, Matt Williams, Mark Anscombe, David Humphreys, Neil Doak, Allen Clark, Shane Logan, Cecil Watson, David Nucifora, John Afoa, Charles Piutau, FOLK, the Complainant, the Bank of Ireland, Richard Finlay, BOD, Kearney twins, Luke Fitzgerald, the Hond and all the other Daves.
Image Image Image I guldered first then looked for and didn't see the name Browne, that fecktard needs a blimp of his own, he carries the stench of evil and leaves it in his wake.

I also thought we'd forgiven Charless? :D
Was guaranteed to miss one.

As for forgiving Charles, that would be a bit like moving......

Actually for Charles I blame whoever wouldn't let him come here early, if we had he might have given more of a feck

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I was thinking more of his tweet when he left which appeared to be supportive of Paddy. Other than that, I have few to zero spare fecks for Charless.

It was a crap move that Nucibastard, I assume, would not allow him to come 6-8 months early, it would have meant he did get a taste for the joys of Lionelland.
Touche - I shall remove Charless from the blimp order, and replace him with Toby Hedworth, Pip Browne, the other Pip, Tommy from Comber and Clive

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:44 am
by BaggyTrousers
BR wrote:
UlsterNo9 wrote:
stickinout wrote:
Rooster wrote:
BR wrote:?
Might not be one
You mean direct rule from D4 Rooster?

No sign of the good doctor deciding he was coming back to save Ulster Rugby for the second time? I suppose not, as he's not done much over the sheugh yet, his job is unfinished...
Where is this rumour of Humphreys coming from? What credentials does David Humphreys have to be CEO of any company or indeed Ulster?

His current role of Director Of Rugby and previous are very different to a CEO. His education wouldn't lend to it either.
Someone suggested that we may not want/need a CEO.
I'd live with direct rule from Rooster & a few well-chosen advisors.

At least a year ago I suggested that we need neither a CEO (Slogan style) nor a DOR, that elements of both jobs could be combined and the elements not required of a rugby oriented appointee could be delegated to a suitable penpusher at a quarter of the stipend of the previous pen-pushing self-aggrandising incumbent. At a stroke two substantial incomes reduced by the guts of 40-50%.

Some will read this and think, that man is a farsighted prophet. I'm sorry to disappoint but I have declined to throw my hat in the ring.

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:46 am
by BaggyTrousers
Sound as a pound Colin, all worthy appointees. :thumleft: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:50 am
by Fortyniner
like it or not all professional rugby is now a business. So a CEO is essential. Not a "penpusher".
and so therfore is a DOR.
far sighted bollix.

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:07 am
by BR
Fortyniner wrote:like it or not all professional rugby is now a business. So a CEO is essential. Not a "penpusher".
and so therfore is a DOR.
far sighted bollix.
There is an argument that the CEO decisions are made at D4. Strategic long/medium term planning should be similar for all 4 provinces. And the IRFU's interest in the provinces is about strengthening their Ireland business.

Therefore is a CEO required in each province? 4 VPs in a COO role may be more appropriate.

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:14 am
by rumncoke
Baggy

The fact is the CEO is a two headed beast at the moment . The Branch being the organisers of the amateur game , club - male and female and schools and all competitions .

Together with overview of the professional game .

To some extent the latter should be the least demanding with little input from the CEO other than the maximisation of any monies from D4.

The former the overview is by committees and basically has changed little of the years .

The truth is that growth in job functions and Staff in the Branch should mean the CEO should be able to sit and read the papers all day

Shate Logan went on the Free Meal Talking Circus .

Forgetting that he had a responsibility to protect his assets — his assets being the players —thereby showing he had no assets of his own .


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Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:17 am
by Fortyniner
BR
possible, so long as there is some local autonomy in pursuing local deals and sponsorship........some of which is only interested in UR support. ( and I know the money goes there (d4) anyway, but it is about perception).

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:40 am
by BR
Fortyniner wrote:BR
possible, so long as there is some local autonomy in pursuing local deals and sponsorship........some of which is only interested in UR support. ( and I know the money goes there (d4) anyway, but it is about perception).
local deals and sponsorship would not be the traditional role of a CEO. I accept that Ulster in particular will require individual attention with their relationship with Stormont for example, but that could still be led from Dublin with divisional management providing the local knowledge.

Obviously the amateur game would fit best into its own division(s),

I'm not suggesting this as a solution, in fact I'd prefer to see a much more federal IRFU, but it seems to make more sense than the current system if you were running the current version of Irish Rugby plc.

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:52 am
by Rooster
BR wrote:
Fortyniner wrote:like it or not all professional rugby is now a business. So a CEO is essential. Not a "penpusher".
and so therfore is a DOR.
far sighted bollix.
There is an argument that the CEO decisions are made at D4. Strategic long/medium term planning should be similar for all 4 provinces. And the IRFU's interest in the provinces is about strengthening their Ireland business.

Therefore is a CEO required in each province? 4 VPs in a COO role may be more appropriate.
My thoughts as well BR, 1 CEO for Irish rugby is all that is required

Re: New CEO

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:57 am
by Columbo
BR wrote:
Fortyniner wrote:like it or not all professional rugby is now a business. So a CEO is essential. Not a "penpusher".
and so therfore is a DOR.
far sighted bollix.
There is an argument that the CEO decisions are made at D4. Strategic long/medium term planning should be similar for all 4 provinces. And the IRFU's interest in the provinces is about strengthening their Ireland business.

Therefore is a CEO required in each province? 4 VPs in a COO role may be more appropriate.
I don't think there's any question about this - the "CEO" roles in the provinces are more in the nature of an Operations Director, reporting to group CEO in Dublin, responsible for implementing the IRFU board's strategic plan in the respective province.

That said, a good "CEO" will obviously look to fight his province's corner, and make sure he is selfish about his province's interests vis-a-vis the other provinces, etc etc - rather than blindly toeing the line. (While a bad "CEO" will be an utterly subservient yes-man, and will be walked all over)