Is there a God?
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- againstthehead
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Is there a God?
I really hope I don't offend anyone by posting this - but it is a genuine question! Been doing some reading recently - trying to broaden my horizons and I would appreciate it if you folk could post some links or books either proving or indeed disproving christianity or indeed religion in general!
I'm a bit of a sceptic - but to be honest, I don't really know much of the 'facts' and would like to learn more! in particular, i'd like to know about how the bible was compiled!
I'm a bit of a sceptic - but to be honest, I don't really know much of the 'facts' and would like to learn more! in particular, i'd like to know about how the bible was compiled!
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Re: Is there a God?
You could check out some of Richard Dawkins books, like "The God Delusion" for "the case for the prosecution".
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Can of worms with this one ath, i guess it has to be the bible, but it's not for me.....so i'll take my leave.
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Re: Is there a God?
Case for Christ by Lee Strobel is a good book. God's Undertaker, has science buried God? by John Lennox is an excellent read. Mere Christianity by CS Lewis is also very thought provoking. The Reason for God by Tim Keller is another very good book. There's a lot of good stuff out there actually...the Evangelical Bookshop in Belfast directly over the road from RBAI would have loads of apologetics/philosophical books on this subject
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Re: Is there a God?
screwtape letter by cs lewis is an excellent start IMO. basically a series of letters from an apprentice devil to his more senior uncle. all about how he is setting out to trick humans into turning away from God, where he's going wrong etc - at the very least it's an entertaining read, also highly thought provoking.
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'The New Creationism' by Paul Garner is a good book. So is 'God's Undertaker' as DHK says. 'Does God believe in Athiests' by John Blanchard is long and quite hard to read, but wins the best title competition.
I find Dawkins hard work and hard to read, mainly because he is so outrageously arrogant. There are others who share his views, but are less belligerent and therefore more readable. Even if IMHO they are wrong.
I find Dawkins hard work and hard to read, mainly because he is so outrageously arrogant. There are others who share his views, but are less belligerent and therefore more readable. Even if IMHO they are wrong.
Re: Is there a God?
To be honest I think it is all very well reading what other's opinions are in their books but the overall question as to whether a supreme being exists or not is based on belief rather than facts.There is simply no factual argument in either direction.The problem with most if not all commentators is they are arguing from a defined position and will find "evidence" to support their already arrived at conclusions.
The only thing I can really do is look at it as coldly as possible from a probability perspective.
The question I would ask is does it make any difference if there is a supreme being or not? Would somebody fundamentally change the way they live their life if they discovered their belief/non belief could be proven to be wrong or even right for that matter? *
* possibly excluding not for profit religious preachers/teachers.
* maybe some people's religious beliefs are sufficiently strong to make it an integral part of their life.
The only thing I can really do is look at it as coldly as possible from a probability perspective.
The question I would ask is does it make any difference if there is a supreme being or not? Would somebody fundamentally change the way they live their life if they discovered their belief/non belief could be proven to be wrong or even right for that matter? *
* possibly excluding not for profit religious preachers/teachers.
* maybe some people's religious beliefs are sufficiently strong to make it an integral part of their life.
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Re: Is there a God?
Snipe Watson wrote:'Does God believe in Athiests' by John Blanchard
John Blanchard is my new hero. That title is mega
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Re: Is there a God?
A good Armagh man he is and very interesting to talk toDHK wrote:God's Undertaker, has science buried God? by John Lennox is an excellent read.
If you ever see of him having a debate it is well worth attending.
http://johnlennox.org/
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Re: Is there a God?
I'm lucky enough to have heard him give a lecture at Uni and then spoke to him afterwards, he was a really nice man. One of the first things he said right at the beginning of the talk was something like, "You may be able to tell from my accent i'm not from round these parts, I'm lucky enough to be from Northern Ireland!" or words to that affectRooster wrote:A good Armagh man he is and very interesting to talk toDHK wrote:God's Undertaker, has science buried God? by John Lennox is an excellent read.
If you ever see of him having a debate it is well worth attending.
http://johnlennox.org/
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His family owned a department store in the centre of Armagh but John has been away for years now but still makes the occasional trip back.DHK wrote:I'm lucky enough to have heard him give a lecture at Uni and then spoke to him afterwards, he was a really nice man. One of the first things he said right at the beginning of the talk was something like, "You may be able to tell from my accent i'm not from round these parts, I'm lucky enough to be from Northern Ireland!" or words to that affectRooster wrote:A good Armagh man he is and very interesting to talk toDHK wrote:God's Undertaker, has science buried God? by John Lennox is an excellent read.
If you ever see of him having a debate it is well worth attending.
http://johnlennox.org/
“That made me feel very special and underlined to me that Ulster is more than a team, it is a community and a rugby family"
Rory Best
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Re: Is there a God?
Does this give you any clues http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8360228.stmagainstthehead wrote:Is there a God?
Re: Is there a God?
I think that whilst there is the belief of a "Supreme Being", certain "supreme" human beings feet are kept firmly on the ground!Shan wrote: The question I would ask is does it make any difference if there is a supreme being or not? Would somebody fundamentally change the way they live their life if they discovered their belief/non belief could be proven to be wrong or even right for that matter?
IMO, everyone needs someone to be answerable to, even Obama, Putin, Hu Jintao et al
This would be a lovely conversational topic for a quiet night in the pub with a few friends and more than a few beers
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Did it frequently over a period of years! Don't recall it coming up in the last 30 years however.This would be a lovely conversational topic for a quiet night in the pub with a few friends
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Had the best coffee shop I can remember, with the big swing doors like something from a John Wayne Western, cream donuts and a coke, magic, and who can forget the Jolly Roger toy shop?Rooster wrote:His family owned a department store in the centre of Armagh but John has been away for years now but still makes the occasional trip back.
Reminds me of the agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac who sat up all night wondering if there was a Dog..........
"Cheer up" he said "It could get worse", so I cheered up, and it got worse...