Munster versus a side they are expected to beat.

[bazzaj]

Rory played himself out of the Lions.

Not sure how you could say that. His leadership and all round game has generally been excellent-true warrior!!

Must be a typo because if you read further on CIMAN praises Rorys performance.

Ulster are infuriating to watch we go from the sublime to the ridiculous.
We don't seem to understand that rugby is a game of momentum and small margins and a game can pivot on one error be it a misfiring lineout, dropped ball, missed tackle or even a simple timing of a pass.

Under no pressure we came off with at least half a dozen.
Our back 3 looked like strangers and were culpable for a lot of that.
Actually I would level defeat firmly at their door.
Utterly shambolic at times from so called professionals costing us field position and tries through lapses.

At no point do you feel our defence is safe either as we are so easy to unravel at the moment through lack of organisation and general passive tackling.

Time and time again we never learn.
Should have had an tbp against a distinctly average Munster team.
Same old story.

[damianmcr]

I'm meeting Jurassic Park dinosaurs at Universal Studios right now.

Altogether much more fun than supporting Ulster although they could probably do with moving some of their dinosaurs on .

I preferred Disney

So do I although The Simpsons part at Universal is class, even had a Duff in Moes Tavern yesterday which was class.

Don't think you can beat Disneys Magic Kingdom, best of the bunch.

You definitely can't. Did you have a flaming Moe?

[Dave]

Couple of outrageous steals from Rory yesterday. Munster's lineout mug off a lot of teams.

[Rooster]

Why do we make so many mistakes? We area team and a group of individuals who are ill at ease with themselves. No confidence at all. Why? Must be backroom issues of one sort or another.

I watch top end national league 2 south rugby when not watching Ulster and the handling is much better.

You can't blame the coaches for some of those howlers today.

Yes to an extent you can blame the coaches for poor ball handling, this has been a problem for quite a number of years and it isn't improving, perhaps instead of weight lifting some morning it should be replaced with passing drills and kept at until it improves to the point that is perfect

[jean valjean]

Why do we make so many mistakes? We area team and a group of individuals who are ill at ease with themselves. No confidence at all. Why? Must be backroom issues of one sort or another.

I watch top end national league 2 south rugby when not watching Ulster and the handling is much better.

You can't blame the coaches for some of those howlers today.

Yes to an extent you can blame the coaches for poor ball handling, this has been a problem for quite a number of years and it isn't improving, perhaps instead of weight lifting some morning it should be replaced with passing drills and kept at until it improves to the point that is perfect

You only have to look at what lam has done out west to see what coaching can do for handling skills. We seem to think players only need weight training and set piece moves. Connachts handling last night was superb.

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[CIMANFOREVER]

So when are we going to have a serious discussion on Piutau on here?
Imo he is a waste of €500k or whatever we're paying for his "skills."

The guy can basically sidestep, truck it up and tackle.
His passing and kicking game is shocking, he's positionally all over the show, and yesterday, the nadir was the total lack of interest and commitment he showed. Like Afoa, he doesn't seem to want to be here.
Personally, if Wasps want him back, f*ck him let him go. His was MIA when we needed him most and his performances have nosedived in recent months.

Let him and Ah Ye go embezzle someone elses coin, and use our own talent or get a few more Saffers in who actually buy into the team and want to play here.

[Dave]

Feck but Munster were poor today. POM turned up, the rest of the backrow didn't bother. The rest of the pack just didn't seem to be firing on all cylinders. Lloyd did well, probably better than we could have expected even given the circumstances of his place in the starting team. Saili continues to be a pain to watch. One minute doing great things, the next getting caught out.

Munster won a game they should have won in terms of the overall difference in strength of both squads, however as it turned out on the pitch Munster gave Ulster every possible opportunity to win, short of actually falling asleep on the pitch, and Ulster still could not get the job done. Ulster backs were poor. The only one really of any particular use is Jackson. To be fair to Stockdale he was out of position to make room for a guy who has some similarities to non-rugby player Van Der Heever.

As for the afore-mentioned Piatau - If I was an Ulster supporter I would be livid with him because today he was an absolute disgrace. I don't mind my team losing as long as the players have tried their best. Most Ulster players do try their best and it is not their fault they are just not good enough, or well enough coached. Piatau is different though. He is dishonest in terms of endeavour. I'd take Gilroy over him any day. At least he tries.

Gone away with your gloating

I think we gave you more opportunities. We had an unacceptable 80% tackle rate compared to your 90%. Your season is very much thriving and I will be supporting your endeavors. We just want this sorry mess over with. We are looking to Jono Gibbes as our Lord and saviour.

[mid ulster maestro]

Remember CIMAN, class is permanent, form is temporary. Charlie is a class act but it must be difficult to raise your game when playing in a team that is totally keek.

[ruckover]

Can we calm it down a bit about Piutau please.

Yes he was completely disinterested yesterday.
Yes he was very poor yesterday.
Was he carrying an injury, perhaps. I don't know for sure.

But to start questioning his entire skill set is absurd. He still has the capability to turn a game on its head at any point from practically nothing. He is still our most dangerous back. He just needs to be in the right mindset, which I completely agree he wasn't in yesterday.

[Dave]

Can we calm it down a bit about Piutau please.

Yes he was completely disinterested yesterday.
Yes he was very poor yesterday.
Was he carrying an injury, perhaps. I don't know for sure.

But to start questioning his entire skill set is absurd. He still has the capability to turn a game on its head at any point from practically nothing. He is still our most dangerous back. He just needs to be in the right mindset, which I completely agree he wasn't in yesterday.

Piutau has been excellent this season but for whatever reason he decided not to bother running back to prevent a try, this can never happen again. If he was carrying an injury he would have received treatment or had to go off. I did not see either happening. He was eventually substituted on 60 minutes.

[Dan Dare]

When players play like Charlie did yesterday, I actually think they want to leave. He is a great player, he is here for the coin, but he is a professional and can decide himself if he wants to turn it on or not.

[Ulster_2013]

The lack of effort from Charlie yesterday was out of order. However, even given that, we sholuld have won that game easily. Munster barely turned up!. Our basic skills are nothing short of a shambles and our drift defence is as poor as I can remember. And for all yous thinking that next year it'll be different, just remember Kiss looks after the defence. Unless we get a specialist defence coach in nothing is gonna change and the better teams are just gonna suck our forwards in adn then go wide.

In my opinion Kiss can go too.

[Snipe Watson]

Rory played himself out of the Lions.

I didn't see him do a whole lot wrong today.

That's because you were paying attention Oul Han.
Rory had an excellent game yesterday. He'd had a couple of ropy ones recently, but he was back on full throttle in Limerick.

[Gerald the Mole]

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[HammerTime]

Feck but Munster were poor today. POM turned up, the rest of the backrow didn't bother. The rest of the pack just didn't seem to be firing on all cylinders. Lloyd did well, probably better than we could have expected even given the circumstances of his place in the starting team. Saili continues to be a pain to watch. One minute doing great things, the next getting caught out.

Munster won a game they should have won in terms of the overall difference in strength of both squads, however as it turned out on the pitch MUNSTER GAVE ULSTER EVERY POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN, short of actually falling asleep on the pitch, and Ulster still could not get the job done. Ulster backs were poor. The only one really of any particular use is Jackson. To be fair to Stockdale he was out of position to make room for a guy who has some similarities to non-rugby player Van Der Heever.

As for the afore-mentioned Piatau - If I was an Ulster supporter I would be livid with him because today he was an absolute disgrace. I don't mind my team losing as long as the players have tried their best. Most Ulster players do try their best and it is not their fault they are just not good enough, or well enough coached. Piatau is different though. He is dishonest in terms of endeavour. I'd take Gilroy over him any day. At least he tries.

What planet are you on? Ulster handed Munster that victory on a plate, gift wrapped!!! Knockons, missed tackles, crooked throws, stupid pens, not taking their chances ... the lot!!! Countless times. One of the most amateurish performances of an already atrocious season and we still should have won.