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Re: Kits Off

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:47 am
by So It Is
Signing a quality LHP or THP is what good teams do to become great teams imo. Like I can see why Leinster might break the bank to sign Kitshoff if they didn't have both Porter and Healy (and probably a few other decent ones further down in the pecking order).

We needed a whole upgrade across the pack, not just in one position.

We should've put that money into the likes of Sutherland, JTA, and a baby eater in the 2nd row. Probably still have enough money left over after that lot to get a Kiwi 10 with an Irish granny as well, with the money thrown at Kitshoff.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:34 pm
by justinr73
Think Leinster have played six different fellas at TH this season……

Our capped props come the end of the season currently look like being Big Licence, Reid, TOT and Wilson.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:38 pm
by Cormac
justinr73 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:34 pm Think Leinster have played six different fellas at TH this season……
Only four at TH, six at loose-head.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:21 pm
by justinr73
Cormac wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:38 pm
justinr73 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:34 pm Think Leinster have played six different fellas at TH this season……
Only four at TH, six at loose-head.
Correct - something went wrong between my brain and typing finger!

Saw somewhere that there were rumours of LH Jack Boyle leaving Leinster. Started all 5 games for Murphy in his first Grand Slam.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:14 pm
by Bobbievee
So It Is wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:47 am Signing a quality LHP or THP is what good teams do to become great teams imo. Like I can see why Leinster might break the bank to sign Kitshoff if they didn't have both Porter and Healy (and probably a few other decent ones further down in the pecking order).

We needed a whole upgrade across the pack, not just in one position.

We should've put that money into the likes of Sutherland, JTA, and a baby eater in the 2nd row. Probably still have enough money left over after that lot to get a Kiwi 10 with an Irish granny as well, with the money thrown at Kitshoff.
Aah, but we are not a good team and with mediocre 10 for years were never going to be.......no matter what the Props trade union prattle on about

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:32 pm
by Neill_M
Ulster Rugby can confirm that Senior Men’s player, Steven Kitshoff, will leave the province at the end of the 2023/24 season.

The club and player have mutually agreed to draw the Springbok’s three-year contract to an early close, with Kitshoff set to re-sign with the Cape Town-based club he captained before arriving in Belfast.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:46 pm
by John_e_boy
Goodbye. Don't pass go. Don't collect £200.

He was in line to be the biggest waste of money since... some previous bok.

Can we focus on Irish players please?

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:56 pm
by Big-al
John_e_boy wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:46 pm Goodbye. Don't pass go. Don't collect £200.

He was in line to be the biggest waste of money since... some previous bok.

Can we focus on Irish players please?
He was poor alright, didn’t improve the scrum, made some high profile defensive errors and cost an absolute fortune.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:24 pm
by HammerTime
All the best but this was an atrocious signing before he even touched a ball for us. It just never made sense. Concentrate on locals and if we are to bring in a foreigner sign guys who are top notch but not playing at international level and will thus play all year round for us. Plenty of NZ'ers and SA'ns fit the bill.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:49 pm
by TheBoat
No word on the guy who continually makes these shyt signings?

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Re: Kits Off

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:35 pm
by Tap+Go
TheBoat wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:49 pm No word on the guy who continually makes these shyt signings?

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Wonder if he’ll do a wee video dropping the Kitsoffs off at the airport like the one picking them up. :lol:

Been a dire signing. Usually with the bigger signings they are one of the better players each week - he’s done nothing. He should be destroying tight heads for us on that moula but in true Ulster signing fashion he’s usually the one getting his Brennan handed to him. So long spicy plum!

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:44 pm
by Dave
The FIRFU need to see sense. They are still of the view that too many foreign players will block local talent. We have demonstrated very clearly that this is far from the truth. Connacht were allowed different rules around NIQs at a time. Each province should have a weighted number of permitted NIQs not just an arbitrary number. At present we have two. Neither worth it. Why not spread the cost of one world cup winner into 2 or 3 players (I know this has been suggested). The squad is in a dire state. Nuciwank is stuck in his concrete worldview. Thankfully he is being moved on.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:10 am
by justinr73
As previously stated, the NIQ rule is nonsensical if we’re obliged to pack a squad with brad pitt IQ players that we don’t select, nevermind Ireland.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:37 am
by justinr73
Tap+Go wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:35 pm
TheBoat wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:49 pm No word on the guy who continually makes these shyt signings?

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Wonder if he’ll do a wee video dropping the Kitsoffs off at the airport like the one picking them up. :lol:

Been a dire signing. Usually with the bigger signings they are one of the better players each week - he’s done nothing. He should be destroying tight heads for us on that moula but in true Ulster signing fashion he’s usually the one getting his Brennan handed to him. So long spicy plum!
That would be funny.

In saying that, I’ve got some sympathy with him.

A) Until you live here, you don’t realise how brad pitt the weather is;
B) He’s suffered from unrealistic expectations, not least in relation to his carrying which was rarely ever more than the odd yard and
C) Similarly, how many LHs destroy THs on a regular or even occasional basis?

Not all signings work out by any stretch of the imagination, even those of dual WC winners.

Re: Kits Off

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:13 am
by rumncoke
A loose head is not there to destroy the tight head he his there to steady the scrum and withstand the ( frequently illegal ) pressure put on him by the tight head thus ensure your possession on your ball .


The only way a loose head can put pressure on the tight head is by BORING or PULLING or LIFTING the tight head -- ALL are illegal and unfortunately overlooked and allowed by too many referees.