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Definitely, they need to get in there more. A day every other week per player spread throughout the squad would hardly do any harm. The schools I'm sure would love to see it.
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HammerTime wrote:Definitely, they need to get in there more. A day every other week per player spread throughout the squad would hardly do any harm. The schools I'm sure would love to see it.
Leinster employees take nothing to do with Michaels, Blackrock and Conglowes.


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back on topic...

LH Prop
George Saunderson(u23)
Jack Boal(u21)
Jacob Boyd(u20)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(u22)
Cameron Doak(u21)
--
Flynn Longstaff(u20)

Hooker
Zach Solomon(u20)
Henry Walker(u19)

Lock
Joe Hopes(u20)
Charlie Irvine(u21)
--
James McKillop(u20)
Mark Lee(u20)
Conor Neary(u20)
Adam Montgomery(u20)
Scott Craig(u20)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(u22)
James McNabney(u21)
Josh Stevens(u20)
Tom Brigg(u20)
--
Bryn Ward(u20)

Scrumhalf
--
Ryan Davies(u21)

Outhalf
James Humphreys(u23)
--
Zach Quirke(u21)

Outside Backs
Rory Telfer(u21)
Ethan Graham(u20)
Lukas Kenny(u20)
Ben McFarlane(u20)
--
Rory Ellerby(u20)
Ben Gibson(u20)
James Girvan(u20)
Henry Boyle(u20)
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kingofthehill wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:30 am
HammerTime wrote:Definitely, they need to get in there more. A day every other week per player spread throughout the squad would hardly do any harm. The schools I'm sure would love to see it.
Leinster employees take nothing to do with Michaels, Blackrock and Conglowes.


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They don't need to they have dedicated coaches on 100k a year there and professional level programs. We don't and need to think outside the box to get some high level training into schools.
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Bayern wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:03 am back on topic...

LH Prop
George Saunderson(u23)
Jack Boal(u21)
Jacob Boyd(u20)
- -
Ryan McNeill (u19 out school)

TH Prop
Scott Wilson(u22)
Cameron Doak(u21)
--
Flynn Longstaff(u20)
Tom McAllister(u19 out school)
Josh Dobbin(U18)

Hooker
Zach Solomon(u20)
Henry Walker(u19)
- -
Callum Mustoe(u19 in school)
Connor Magee(u18)

Lock
Joe Hopes(u20)
Charlie Irvine(u21)
--
James McKillop(u20)
Mark Lee(u20)
Conor Neary(u20)
Adam Montgomery(u20)
Scott Craig(u20)
Ryan Connolly(u19 in school)

Backrow
Lorcan McLoughlin(u22)
James McNabney(u21)
Josh Stevens(u20)
Tom Brigg(u20)
--
Bryn Ward(u20)
Ryan Kidd(u19 out school)
Jamie Jackson(u19 in school)
Billy Allen(u19 in school)
Matthew Heasley(u18)

Scrumhalf
--
Ryan Davies(u21)
Oliver Smyth(u19 out school)
Clark Logan(u19 in school)

Outhalf
James Humphreys(u23)
--
Zach Quirke(u21)
Josh Eagleson(u20)

Outside Backs
Rory Telfer(u21)
Ethan Graham(u20)
Lukas Kenny(u20)
Ben McFarlane(u20)
--
Rory Ellerby(u20)
Ben Gibson(u20)
James Girvan(u20)
Henry Boyle(u20)
Jonny Scott(u19 out school)
Tim Deering(u19 in school)
Sean McKay(u19 in school)
Fraser Cunningham(u18)
Thanks Bayern - overlaid with U19 & prominent U18s also in final year of school.
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Is that supposed to be a list of the best prospects or the academy/sub-academy?
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HammerTime wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:30 am
HammerTime wrote:Definitely, they need to get in there more. A day every other week per player spread throughout the squad would hardly do any harm. The schools I'm sure would love to see it.
Leinster employees take nothing to do with Michaels, Blackrock and Conglowes.


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They don't need to they have dedicated coaches on 100k a year there and professional level programs. We don't and need to think outside the box to get some high level training into schools.
Consider emulating Wallace's approach by implementing a system where students are required to pay a fee to participate in extracurricular activities.

While this concept may raise some concerns, if it ensures that high-level sports programs can continue to exist in schools without imposing an exorbitant financial burden, it should be considered as a viable option.

I would find it disheartening if my child were denied the opportunity to participate in school activities due to insufficient funding.


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Big-al wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:01 pm Is that supposed to be a list of the best prospects or the academy/sub-academy?
mine was an attempt at showing the academy and sub-academy players.
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Bayern wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:19 pm
Big-al wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:01 pm Is that supposed to be a list of the best prospects or the academy/sub-academy?
mine was an attempt at showing the academy and sub-academy players.
I overlayed with those in U19 & U18 leaving school from NTS/PTS. I’m assuming they also would be theoretically eligible for the next round of Academy in 2024. Although number of older ones probably ahead in the reckoning.
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Tap+Go wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 3:41 pm
Bayern wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:19 pm
Big-al wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:01 pm Is that supposed to be a list of the best prospects or the academy/sub-academy?
mine was an attempt at showing the academy and sub-academy players.
I overlayed with those in U19 & U18 leaving school from NTS/PTS. I’m assuming they also would be theoretically eligible for the next round of Academy in 2024. Although number of older ones probably ahead in the reckoning.
Yep for sure, I didnt know those players so interesting to read, thanks.
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kingofthehill wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:04 pm
HammerTime wrote:
kingofthehill wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:30 am
HammerTime wrote:Definitely, they need to get in there more. A day every other week per player spread throughout the squad would hardly do any harm. The schools I'm sure would love to see it.
Leinster employees take nothing to do with Michaels, Blackrock and Conglowes.


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They don't need to they have dedicated coaches on 100k a year there and professional level programs. We don't and need to think outside the box to get some high level training into schools.
Consider emulating Wallace's approach by implementing a system where students are required to pay a fee to participate in extracurricular activities.

While this concept may raise some concerns, if it ensures that high-level sports programs can continue to exist in schools without imposing an exorbitant financial burden, it should be considered as a viable option.

I would find it disheartening if my child were denied the opportunity to participate in school activities due to insufficient funding.


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As a dad of two players I would happily pay a little more if it meant they would continue their sporting development.

School coaches often go way above and beyond and for that I am very grateful ✊
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Problem is that this isn’t within Ulster rugbys remit. That would fall under each school or the education minister. Ulster rugby would surely have no power to do this??

Anyway, for all the talk about the Leinster school system, it still falls hugely on the shoulders of St Michaels and especially Blackrock. Gonzaga look to have joined the higher echelons recently.

Even in Munster the two cork schools look to producing the bulk of their underage sides.

RBAI, Methody and CCB aren’t consistently producing top underage prospects. Wallace High has done well in recent years.

The other country clubs and schools are good for a player or two every season. No different to Leinster.
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kingofthehill wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:04 pm
Consider emulating Wallace's approach by implementing a system where students are required to pay a fee to participate in extracurricular activities.

While this concept may raise some concerns, if it ensures that high-level sports programs can continue to exist in schools without imposing an exorbitant financial burden, it should be considered as a viable option.

I would find it disheartening if my child were denied the opportunity to participate in school activities due to insufficient funding.


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Only problem is for those kids whose parents can't afford the extra fees. Perhaps a 'scholarship' or two would deal with this.
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No idea what the situation is now, but know Wallace used to have fairly nominal school fees, with the option to pay/donate more, along with a suggested donation. I'd personally be happy with a similar system for extra-curricular activities, let those in a position to pay, but I wouldn't want kids whose parents were struggling to be excluded.
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Turf any decent prospects down to St Michaels on scholarship with they proviso they stay in the Ulster system. They're on the road to nowhere up here.
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