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# MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:58 pm
by Shan
I see that Cristiano Ronaldo is now facing allegations of rape and the alleged victim states that the reason she is bringing this forward now is because of the MeToo movement.

Ms Mayorga told Der Spiegel that the #MeToo movement is part of the reason she is now speaking out and her lawyer believes the non disclosure agreement is no longer valid as Ronaldo's lawyers, "knowing that the plaintiff was a ‘vulnerable person’... repeatedly threatened to falsely and publicly accuse the plaintiff of consenting to sexual intercourse with the defendant in order to accuse the defendant of sexual assault to obtain money".


Ronaldo is claiming this fake news.

Cristiano Ronaldo was accused of rape in Las Vegas in 2009 and paid the alleged victim $375,000 to keep it secret, according to a civil complaint filed in a Nevada court last week.

Kathryn Mayorga, 34, attended a party in Ronaldo's hotel suite on the night the attack allegedly took place, according to a story in German news magazine Der Spiegel.

Last night, the Juventus forward dismissed the claims as "fake news" on Instagram: "What they said today: fake, fake news. They want to be famous, to say my name. It’s part of the job. I’m a happy man and all good."



Whatever about the facts of this case it looks to me that we will likely see more and more of these claims. At some point sportsmen will probably have to stop going out and enjoying themselves for fear of being accused of all sorts.

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:09 pm
by Dave
#ibelieveher

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:13 pm
by Shan
Dave wrote:#ibelieveher


SJW.

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:54 pm
by Russ
It's time to properly vet the people one consumates with


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Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:02 pm
by Dave
In all seriousness, these claims are becoming more and more prevalent. The issues seem to go round in circles, in particular with allegations going back several years, as there is a lack of physical evidence. What follows is a situation in which nobody knows the truth.

The accused is then facing allegations that cannot often be proven or disproven, and is therefore innocent in the eyes of the law as the burden of proof lies with the accuser. However, with trial by social media the accused can endure considerable damage to their reputation, career, relationships etc. That is why I believe that all parties should remain anonymous.

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:21 pm
by Jetstream
I hope Bank of Ireland are not sponsoring Juventus!!!

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:28 pm
by Shan
Russ wrote:It's time to properly vet the people one consumates with


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Even that is not enough it seems. The definition of consent is quite fluid now. I believe there was a case in England whereby somebody who gave consent, by any reasonable standard, later decided to say that such consent was not actually given. So we may be entering the realms of requiring to get consent in writing, possibly with independent witness signatures, before engaging. Tis a scam but as long as someone is making money it is all good. The legal profession are traditionally the ones who profit but even they probably are only in the ha'penny place compared to those activists who indirectly profit from this new outrage and offence driven industry.

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:30 pm
by Shan
Jetstream wrote:I hope Bank of Ireland are not sponsoring Juventus!!!


Tis the ultras I'd be worried about. They are notorious feminists. :D :D

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:33 pm
by Dave

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:03 pm
by Russ
Dave wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/01/sigur-ros-drummer-orri-pall-dyrason-quits-rape-allegations?CMP=fb_gu
Seems to be a strong pattern to these

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Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:04 pm
by BaggyTrousers
Amongst the reasons that such things are increasing is because the days of the extremely wealthy white male being able to do or take what they think the world owed them are fast disappearing.

Did anyone watch the senate hearing when the lady and the judge gave evidence? She was entirely credible, if I were Trump I'd think I've nominated a looper. For someone who has spent years controlling a courtroom, he was appalling. I don't believe him, not sure I believe Ronaldo either. Certainly don't believe the old pussy grabber either.

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:08 pm
by Russ
BaggyTrousers wrote:Amongst the reasons that such things are increasing is because the days of the extremely wealthy white male being able to do or take what they think the world owed them are fast disappearing.

Did anyone watch the senate hearing when the lady and the judge gave evidence? She was entirely credible, if I were Trump I'd think I've nominated a looper. For someone who has spent years controlling a courtroom, he was appalling. I don't believe him, not sure I believe Ronaldo either. Certainly don't believe the old pussy grabber either.
I've decided not to believe anyone. Ever

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Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:14 pm
by BaggyTrousers
Probably right Russ

Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:29 pm
by Russ
BaggyTrousers wrote:Probably right Russ
Hmmmmm ...

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Re: # MeToo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:47 pm
by Shan
When you have evidence you don't have to believe. The issue is that evidence is not something that folk value highly enough.