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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby War of attrition » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:27 pm

I know blame Christian brothers

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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby Dave » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:34 pm

I blame Christianity for most things.
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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby Shan » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:16 am

Russ wrote:Define victim



Read the post I responded to. If you can't understand it let me know and I'll try to help.
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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby Shan » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:39 am

Dave wrote:Victim blaming is words spoken by people.

This is actual lives ruined by corruption in the CPS.


Of course - I was answering a particular point Baggy made.

Lives have always been ruined by various elements within the British legal and law enforcement agencies. What's so special this time?
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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby Shan » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:48 am

War of attrition wrote:
War of attrition wrote:In the name of fair play 2 young women in the corrupt South 1 14 the other 24 hadn't a chance to blacken good chaps names there desd

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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby Russ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:05 am

Shan wrote:
Russ wrote:Define victim



Read the post I responded to. If you can't understand it let me know and I'll try to help.
You've made sweeping generalisations. Someone in a recent trial was called a victim when it was clear to everybody she was not a victim

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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby Dave » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:19 am

Shan wrote:
Dave wrote:Victim blaming is words spoken by people.

This is actual lives ruined by corruption in the CPS.


Of course - I was answering a particular point Baggy made.

Lives have always been ruined by various elements within the British legal and law enforcement agencies. What's so special this time?
The scale of the problem.
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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby pwrmoore » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:03 am

Russ wrote:
Shan wrote:
Russ wrote:Define victim



Read the post I responded to. If you can't understand it let me know and I'll try to help.
You've made sweeping generalisations. Someone in a recent trial was called a victim when it was clear to everybody she was not a victim

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Don't be a dick russ. That is quite obviously not what Shan is referring to. A man of your claimed intellect and education shouldn't have much trouble understanding that.
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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby rumncoke » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:54 pm

When the rape is an allegation the person should be defined as claimant - if the allegation is up held — then as a victim of rape .

Both the claimant and defendant can be victims of the legal system

In the Jackson - Olding affair both might be considered victims of the system .

The claimant due to the number of hours in the stand — and the defendants due to the fact the case should never have gone to court —

The testimony of the witness alone ensured it would never have been upheld .

The claimants versions of events were never plausible making it obvious to any unprejudiced listener that the allegation was false . Despite the fact that the councils for the defendants treated her like a delicate flower and never tried to establish and have her admit why she was crying in the taxi .

Nor did they ever ask her why she failed to tell Rory Harrison what had happened was non consensual in the taxi but 7 -8 hours later after she had made the claims to her friends .

The episode with Rory Best was sufficient to ensure any guilty verdict ( if any moron thought that was possible ) would have had assured successful appeal — due to interference with witnesses - All current members of the Ulster or Ireland squads were told not to testify and new character witnesses had to be allowed by the Court - the case could very easily have been thrown out of court at that time for a total miscarriage of justice .





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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby ColinM » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:40 pm

Did the PSNI ever get reprimanded for calling the young lady complainant a victim?

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Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Postby Shan » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:46 pm

pwrmoore wrote:
Don't be a dick russ. That is quite obviously not what Shan is referring to. A man of your claimed intellect and education shouldn't have much trouble understanding that.


Spot on Paul. I don't think Russ is capable of understanding the concept of replying to a particular post.

I never knew he claimed any intellect. If it is real he manages to hide it very well. :D
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