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Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby BaggyTrousers » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:28 am

Well, it's not looking like a good day for the DUP.

Nolan is doing public service this morning on the free money for burning wood scheme.

1) The DUPers gave him a response to some questions
2) Nolan has evidence that their response is inaccurate/a pack of lies
3) The DUPers have withdrawn their earlier response/pack of lies.

There is an old saw that says "If something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true". I understand that all reference sources who detail said old saw are today altering it as follows: "If something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true, unless it is a scheme administered by the DUP"

Further amusing detail on the hot air scheme. Draft audit from PWC says only 46% of boilers comply with the scheme. Some boilers have been installed in someone else's' property giving them free heat and the profit to the boiler owner.

Nolan claiming even bigger revelation tomorrow.

Arlene out. DUP eh?
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby Gary » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:03 pm

I really am beginning to like the fat boy. He went to a good school I suspect.
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby caledoniancelt » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:27 pm

Dunlambert Boys I believe.
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby Rooster » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:07 pm

BaggyTrousers wrote:Well, it's not looking like a good day for the DUP.

Nolan is doing public service this morning on the free money for burning wood scheme.

1) The DUPers gave him a response to some questions
2) Nolan has evidence that their response is inaccurate/a pack of lies
3) The DUPers have withdrawn their earlier response/pack of lies.

There is an old saw that says "If something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true". I understand that all reference sources who detail said old saw are today altering it as follows: "If something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true, unless it is a scheme administered by the DUP"

Further amusing detail on the hot air scheme. Draft audit from PWC says only 46% of boilers comply with the scheme. Some boilers have been installed in someone else's' property giving them free heat and the profit to the boiler owner.

Nolan claiming even bigger revelation tomorrow.

Arlene out. DUP eh?

There is also a bit of a strange one that so far 14 have been found to be fraudster use yet only 5 of those have suspended payments !

Never mind the DUP bashing what about those civil servants who made the balls to start with and continued to get promoted since ?
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby big mervyn » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:12 pm

Rooster wrote:Never mind the DUP bashing what about those civil servants who made the balls to start with and continued to get promoted since ?

How else are they going to get them out of those key jobs :lol:
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby mid ulster maestro » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:37 pm

Standard Civil Service practice Rooster. If you want rid of somebody, promote them and move them to greener pastures.
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby BaggyTrousers » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:18 pm

Rooster wrote:
BaggyTrousers wrote:Well, it's not looking like a good day for the DUP.

Nolan is doing public service this morning on the free money for burning wood scheme.

1) The DUPers gave him a response to some questions
2) Nolan has evidence that their response is inaccurate/a pack of lies
3) The DUPers have withdrawn their earlier response/pack of lies.

There is an old saw that says "If something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true". I understand that all reference sources who detail said old saw are today altering it as follows: "If something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true, unless it is a scheme administered by the DUP"

Further amusing detail on the hot air scheme. Draft audit from PWC says only 46% of boilers comply with the scheme. Some boilers have been installed in someone else's' property giving them free heat and the profit to the boiler owner.

Nolan claiming even bigger revelation tomorrow.

Arlene out. DUP eh?

There is also a bit of a strange one that so far 14 have been found to be fraudster use yet only 5 of those have suspended payments !

Never mind the DUP bashing what about those civil servants who made the balls to start with and continued to get promoted since ?


Did you listen to the Fat Boy Rooster? He was making the point that he is not absolving civil servants but it is very clear that the DUPers have been deflecting all blame towards them & he is exposing the fact that this is a crock of shyte, he is also promising the biggest revelation is yet to come & with my fertile imagination, I can only assuming it goes to the door of smug, crown wearing Mrs Arlene Fascist herself.

Given how she has become increasingly smug since taking over from Peter, Peter wife ................etc etc , and how she has also become massively condescending to anyone with the temerity to question her on any subject, I would love to see her fall on her smug arsepiece.

Final decisions are not made by civil servants, they are made by ministers, the DUPers are very fond of offloading any hint of blame no matter how inextricably tied to any given scandal

There are other issues I'd love to come to the fore, like which DUPer or DUPers friend, relative, constituent owned that hugely expensive small strip of ground we had to purchase for access up near the north coast, or maybe how come we sold off a clatter of land for buttons, who benefitted?

I have to say I wouldn't trust any DUPer to run down til the shap, buy me a Paris bun & give me the correct change out of a ten spot. They'd probably find a bit in the bible to cover the shortfall. >threaten
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby BaggyTrousers » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:36 pm

So, Mrs A Fascist "fought" to keep the scheme open.

Forecast: Hot DUP Air expect to blow steadily, gusting to gale force.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-38312906
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby Rooster » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:51 pm

mid ulster maestro wrote:Standard Civil Service practice Rooster. If you want rid of somebody, promote them and move them to greener pastures.

Which is totally wrong, remember not only do you get a pay rise on promotion but you also get a fatter pension, if the same people were in the private sector they would be lucky to have a job the next morning never mind a pay rise and bigger pension and perhaps if the civil service was the same then the people involved would take more care and pride in their work and not cost the country millions in the process.
This is one big high profile mistake but I am pretty sure if you added up the rest of the errors over the past 5 years you would come up with a similar amount of money wasted through incompetence, in fact when I think about it £400 million over 20 years is £20 million a year so it wouldn't take much digging to find another batch of feckups to match that figure each year and every year.
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby Rooster » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:04 pm

BaggyTrousers wrote:
Rooster wrote:
BaggyTrousers wrote:Well, it's not looking like a good day for the DUP.

Nolan is doing public service this morning on the free money for burning wood scheme.

1) The DUPers gave him a response to some questions
2) Nolan has evidence that their response is inaccurate/a pack of lies
3) The DUPers have withdrawn their earlier response/pack of lies.

There is an old saw that says "If something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true". I understand that all reference sources who detail said old saw are today altering it as follows: "If something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true, unless it is a scheme administered by the DUP"

Further amusing detail on the hot air scheme. Draft audit from PWC says only 46% of boilers comply with the scheme. Some boilers have been installed in someone else's' property giving them free heat and the profit to the boiler owner.

Nolan claiming even bigger revelation tomorrow.

Arlene out. DUP eh?

There is also a bit of a strange one that so far 14 have been found to be fraudster use yet only 5 of those have suspended payments !

Never mind the DUP bashing what about those civil servants who made the balls to start with and continued to get promoted since ?


Did you listen to the Fat Boy Rooster? He was making the point that he is not absolving civil servants but it is very clear that the DUPers have been deflecting all blame towards them & he is exposing the fact that this is a crock of shyte, he is also promising the biggest revelation is yet to come & with my fertile imagination, I can only assuming it goes to the door of smug, crown wearing Mrs Arlene Fascist herself.

Given how she has become increasingly smug since taking over from Peter, Peter wife ................etc etc , and how she has also become massively condescending to anyone with the temerity to question her on any subject, I would love to see her fall on her smug arsepiece.

Final decisions are not made by civil servants, they are made by ministers, the DUPers are very fond of offloading any hint of blame no matter how inextricably tied to any given scandal

There are other issues I'd love to come to the fore, like which DUPer or DUPers friend, relative, constituent owned that hugely expensive small strip of ground we had to purchase for access up near the north coast, or maybe how come we sold off a clatter of land for buttons, who benefitted?

I have to say I wouldn't trust any DUPer to run down til the shap, buy me a Paris bun & give me the correct change out of a ten spot. They'd probably find a bit in the bible to cover the shortfall. >threaten

Didn't hear the past 2 days of Fat Boy yet but will listen later, was out earning a crust to pay my impending tax bill to keep those other feckers in a job.
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby jean valjean » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:43 pm

The real meat in this story will be who pushed to keep the scheme going and who got in because of it. Looks though like the shinners will keep arlene in a job, as they have no interest in seeing her go.
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby BaggyTrousers » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:10 pm

jean valjean wrote:The real meat in this story will be who pushed to keep the scheme going and who got in because of it. Looks though like the shinners will keep arlene in a job, as they have no interest in seeing her go.


Fat Boy sounded extra pleased about tomorrow's edition when the shyte will hit the expelair. My money is on Arlene Fascist, they have already said they had evidence of a row between her and that other smug dickhead the then minister & given it was he who wanted it shut down, logic suggests it was probably Arlene who wanted and got a 2 week extension.

Of course we have been told Arlene's brother is one of the scheme's happy recipients, I would dearly love to know when he applied. Then again say what you like about her but I've never taken her as an idiot, so it would hardly be something so blatant.

Whatever the scoop tomorrow, I'd guess there may well be a disproportionate number of DUPers benefiting but of course that is a biased guess.
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby Rooster » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:15 pm

BaggyTrousers wrote:
jean valjean wrote:The real meat in this story will be who pushed to keep the scheme going and who got in because of it. Looks though like the shinners will keep arlene in a job, as they have no interest in seeing her go.


Fat Boy sounded extra pleased about tomorrow's edition when the shyte will hit the expelair. My money is on Arlene Fascist, they have already said they had evidence of a row between her and that other smug dickhead the then minister & given it was he who wanted it shut down, logic suggests it was probably Arlene who wanted and got a 2 week extension.

Of course we have been told Arlene's brother is one of the scheme's happy recipients, I would dearly love to know when he applied. Then again say what you like about her but I've never taken her as an idiot, so it would hardly be something so blatant.

Whatever the scoop tomorrow, I'd guess there may well be a disproportionate number of DUPers benefiting but of course that is a biased guess.

I don't understand why the data protection act comes into this yet all farm subsides and payments are published online, plus things like borehole licences, incinerator licences etc etc
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby BaggyTrousers » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:21 pm

Absolutely, that was brought up on Fat Boys show that the farm subsidy does not allow anonymity so why should other recipients of public funds? Simple, they shouldn't.
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Re: Bad News Day for the DUPers.

Postby Rooster » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:03 pm

BaggyTrousers wrote:Absolutely, that was brought up on Fat Boys show that the farm subsidy does not allow anonymity so why should other recipients of public funds? Simple, they shouldn't.

SAF 1 Section 8 ­ Personal Data ­ Privacy Notice
Section 8 advises you that we can use the information on your form for legitimate purposes in line with the Data Protection Act 1998, Freedom of Information Act 2000 and Environmental Information Regulations 2004. Legislation to be introduced by the European Commission in 2014 will change the way Members States are required to publish details of the amounts paid to CAP claimants. This is explained at Section 8 of the SAF 1 and at Section 2 of this Guide

In laymans terms, if you don't agree to this we won't pay you.

If you want to be arsed searching the database to see who got what http://cap-payments.defra.gov.uk/Default.aspx

It is interesting as most people think it is all farmers who get the agricultural subsidies but there is a diverse bunch of recipients as can be seen from the examples, these were 2014 figures from a press article

Some of Northern Ireland’s largest recipients included Dungannon based Countryside Services Ltd (£1,977,103.51), Ballymena Borough Council (£1,023,493.74), Cookstown District Council (£1,364,748.82), Fermanagh District Council (£1,361,295.31), Lisburn City Council (£1,075,394.75), and Northway Mushrooms, Blackwatertown (£1,135,788.02).

Other groups or organisations which received substantial payments included Killyleagh Football Club (£121,263.28), the Boys Brigade (£116,420.56), and Hillsborough Scout & Community Hall Group (£198,450.00).
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