BaggyTrousers wrote:The aforementioned Max Hastings tells me that USA have flown more than 57000 missions in Syria .........
Eamonn Holmes this morning:
The RAF targeted an oilfield that had already been extensively bombed by America and France. Was there anything left to hit?
They could always hit Eamonn Holmes - even Corbyn would support that.
But seriously, it wasn't important what the target was, just where it was. A couple of miles over the Iraqi border simply emphasises the point that it's business as usual for the RAF despite the media circus around the politicians.
Some of the Labour defectors are getting a bit precious because of "threats" to deselect them. Is that not what a constituency is supposed to do when they fundamentally disagree their elected representative.
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Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
I am pacifist, but there is a time and a place to fight and I do believe Syria is the time and the place now.
pacifist definition- someone opposed to violence as a means of settling disputes
Are you definitely sure you are a pacifist Grumps rather than someone who might be considered not a pacifist at all, due to thinking that there is actually a time and a place to fight?
Very good - I meant to come back sooner to see who would pull me on that but have only got back to the forum now and had to check back to see who bit. Thought it would have been someone else.
I might be considered a "Shut up or I'll pacifist thru yer face" type of pacifist ...... or not!
I'm not arguing -
I'm just explaining why I'm right
big mervyn wrote:I wonder how many Labour defectors actually believe that it's the right thing to do and how many are using the vote to undermine Corbyn?
It is hard to understand how Corbyn doesn't undermine himself by his stance in the past about the IRA. I find it hard to trust any politician who apparently changes his stance according to his own particular circumstances.
Of course it could just be the British forces he objects to
I'm not arguing -
I'm just explaining why I'm right
And as you know, I was against the Iraq adventure as well. I think we actually agree but from different points. My indication of no moral qualms is your morality being redundant in a decision about war.
Absolutely and of course I wasn't trying to suggest you were at tea with Tony in relation to Iraq.
Fair enough on the second point.
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
Can't understand why the Labour supporters are in such a fuss this time when it is actually a more dangerous situation than when they were backing Tony sleezebag Blair when he was using false information to join a scrap in Iraq against advice from some of the military leaders who thought it was false information.
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Deutchland have entered the fray today and interestingly are urging the Saudis to join the Coalition of Grace against the Ultimate Axis of Evil.
Interesting to see the Saudis fighting the side they are financing.
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Russ wrote:
Makes one wonder what the Americans have been bombing
in fairness, Syria is perfect for them. There are no friendly forces in the area.
They have to get through the 600 billion dollar budget somehow. Indiscriminately Bombing vast swathes of desert will get the job done in terms of being rid of replaceable ordinance and get even more money next year.
the Merikans do like to play with their toys from time to time and use them in a combat zone. Keeps the skills of the gamers in the US up and lets them think about designing some new toys to play with.
Come on Russia lets bomb those car parks and really shake things up, but of course firing a missile at a wannabe European member may be a step too far even for them. Europe doesn't have the balls to face up to the fact that much of the oil is going into Turkey although the revenue to support ISIL has been shifting into other areas already to negate when the west finally does tackle the oil flow if at all. Too many people making too much money.
the Merikans do like to play with their toys from time to time and use them in a combat zone. Keeps the skills of the gamers in the US up and lets them think about designing some new toys to play with.
Come on Russia lets bomb those car parks and really shake things up, but of course firing a missile at a wannabe European member may be a step too far even for them. Europe doesn't have the balls to face up to the fact that much of the oil is going into Turkey although the revenue to support ISIL has been shifting into other areas already to negate when the west finally does tackle the oil flow if at all. Too many people making too much money.
Any one else think that the latest shooting in America is a bit strange? Thought it weird that it escalated pretty quickly from an employee in a strop to a full blown ISIS attack evidence being "found" in a flat that was subsequently opened up to the press after being cleared out by the Fed's but looking like a normal house and things actually arranged to suit a story.
Now anyone who has seen a raid by a burgler, HMRC or the PSNI would instantly realise that the house in question was not searched at all, no trace of forensic examination whatsoever in that house.
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