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Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:20 pm
by kingofthehill
jean valjean wrote:Russ wrote:Can someone actually outline what's going on?
Where will the 2nd place cut be?
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Max points possible for 2nd place team:
Group 1 - 21
Group 2- 20 although extremely unlikely would take spreys to take 5 points and Clermont only 2.
Group 3 - 19
Group 4 - 20
Group 5 - 20 again unlikely as it would take Toulon to get 2 bonus points.
Short story is if Ulster win without a bp they will be 6th seeds and play away to 3rd seeds. If Ulster win with bp they will top group and get 4th seed and home qf.
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If La Rochelle win with BP as well,do they not top the group and get Home QF?
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Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:21 pm
by jean valjean
kingofthehill wrote:jean valjean wrote:Russ wrote:Can someone actually outline what's going on?
Where will the 2nd place cut be?
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Max points possible for 2nd place team:
Group 1 - 21
Group 2- 20 although extremely unlikely would take spreys to take 5 points and Clermont only 2.
Group 3 - 19
Group 4 - 20
Group 5 - 20 again unlikely as it would take Toulon to get 2 bonus points.
Short story is if Ulster win without a bp they will be 6th seeds and play away to 3rd seeds. If Ulster win with bp they will top group and get 4th seed and home qf.
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If La Rochelle win with BP as well,do they not top the group and get Home QF?
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We are a point ahead so will top group on total points with bp win.
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Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:26 pm
by kingofthehill
jean valjean wrote:kingofthehill wrote:jean valjean wrote:Russ wrote:Can someone actually outline what's going on?
Where will the 2nd place cut be?
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Max points possible for 2nd place team:
Group 1 - 21
Group 2- 20 although extremely unlikely would take spreys to take 5 points and Clermont only 2.
Group 3 - 19
Group 4 - 20
Group 5 - 20 again unlikely as it would take Toulon to get 2 bonus points.
Short story is if Ulster win without a bp they will be 6th seeds and play away to 3rd seeds. If Ulster win with bp they will top group and get 4th seed and home qf.
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If La Rochelle win with BP as well,do they not top the group and get Home QF?
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We are a point ahead so will top group on total points with bp win.
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don’t know what I was thinking.
La Rochelle win BP and ulster win then La Rochelle top group due to head to head. Isn’t that right?
Seems unfair to lose two group matches and ulster lose one and La Rochelle top group.
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Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:34 pm
by jean valjean
kingofthehill wrote:jean valjean wrote:kingofthehill wrote:jean valjean wrote:Russ wrote:Can someone actually outline what's going on?
Where will the 2nd place cut be?
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Max points possible for 2nd place team:
Group 1 - 21
Group 2- 20 although extremely unlikely would take spreys to take 5 points and Clermont only 2.
Group 3 - 19
Group 4 - 20
Group 5 - 20 again unlikely as it would take Toulon to get 2 bonus points.
Short story is if Ulster win without a bp they will be 6th seeds and play away to 3rd seeds. If Ulster win with bp they will top group and get 4th seed and home qf.
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If La Rochelle win with BP as well,do they not top the group and get Home QF?
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We are a point ahead so will top group on total points with bp win.
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don’t know what I was thinking.
La Rochelle win BP and ulster win then La Rochelle top group due to head to head. Isn’t that right?
Seems unfair to lose two group matches and ulster lose one and La Rochelle top group.
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Yup our lack of bps will likely haunt us again.
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Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:44 pm
by Dave
Wasps are dung. We will BP them easily.
Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:04 pm
by UlsterNo9
Can anyone work out what was said before MB made his comment?
Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:05 pm
by Russ
UlsterNo9 wrote:
Can anyone work out what was said before MB made his comment?
Something about fecking swinging arms all game
Then the commentator apologises.
Then matthieu goes on his rant
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Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:15 pm
by BaggyTrousers
kingofthehill wrote:jean valjean wrote:kingofthehill wrote:jean valjean wrote:Russ wrote:Can someone actually outline what's going on?
Where will the 2nd place cut be?
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Max points possible for 2nd place team:
Group 1 - 21
Group 2- 20 although extremely unlikely would take spreys to take 5 points and Clermont only 2.
Group 3 - 19
Group 4 - 20
Group 5 - 20 again unlikely as it would take Toulon to get 2 bonus points.
Short story is if Ulster win without a bp they will be 6th seeds and play away to 3rd seeds. If Ulster win with bp they will top group and get 4th seed and home qf.
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If La Rochelle win with BP as well,do they not top the group and get Home QF?
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We are a point ahead so will top group on total points with bp win.
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don’t know what I was thinking.
La Rochelle win BP and ulster win then La Rochelle top group due to head to head. Isn’t that right?
Seems unfair to lose two group matches and ulster lose one and La Rochelle top group.
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Nah KOTH not having that, “unfair” is the Lionels trump card. We have to be better than that, take it on the chin and just marvel at what a shîte group it is when this Ulster team might win five matches.
Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:28 pm
by kingofthehill
BaggyTrousers wrote:kingofthehill wrote:jean valjean wrote:kingofthehill wrote:jean valjean wrote:Max points possible for 2nd place team:
Group 1 - 21
Group 2- 20 although extremely unlikely would take spreys to take 5 points and Clermont only 2.
Group 3 - 19
Group 4 - 20
Group 5 - 20 again unlikely as it would take Toulon to get 2 bonus points.
Short story is if Ulster win without a bp they will be 6th seeds and play away to 3rd seeds. If Ulster win with bp they will top group and get 4th seed and home qf.
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If La Rochelle win with BP as well,do they not top the group and get Home QF?
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We are a point ahead so will top group on total points with bp win.
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don’t know what I was thinking.
La Rochelle win BP and ulster win then La Rochelle top group due to head to head. Isn’t that right?
Seems unfair to lose two group matches and ulster lose one and La Rochelle top group.
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Nah KOTH not having that, “unfair” is the Lionels trump card. We have to be better than that, take it on the chin and just marvel at what a shîte group it is when this Ulster team might win five matches.
True
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Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:35 pm
by Neill_M
TV Schedule for the Round 6 Games (All KO Times - UK Time)
Saturday 20th Jan
1pm Glasgow v Chiefs BT
1pm MHR v
Sky
3:15pm Sarries v Saints BT
3:15pm ASM v Ospreys BT
5:30pm Scaaarlets v RCT Sky
5:30pm Treviso v Baaaaath BT
Sunday 21st Jan
1pm Tigers v R92 Sky
1pm
v CO Sky
3:15pm Coventry v
BT
3:15pm ASR v Quins Sky
Highlights on TG4 of the games involving the Irish sides on Sat at 7:15pm and Sun at 6:15pm.
Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:40 pm
by Neill_M
Challenge Cup update after R5:
Edinburgh 24 191
Pau 24 72
Newcastle 23 93
Westies 21 87
Cardiff 17 1
Gloucester 21 124
Bordeaux 16 28
Worcester 15 17
Gloucester playing Pau on Friday night (live on Sky) to decide who wins that pool, otherwise the other groups have been won. Cardiff look like being the "worst" winner and will be away from home in the QF.
Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:07 pm
by jean valjean
Let's consider the quite realistic possibility that Ulster and Munster qualify in positions 4/5 seeds. The winner plays either seed 1 or 8 in the semi which is currently likely to be Leinster (1). If the 5th seed win they have home advantage, if the 4th seed wins then home advantage goes to Leinster. Either way Leinster get a semi at the Aviva or could we nominate somewhere else (Windsor/ thomond)......
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Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:23 pm
by Shan
Hardly matters. If Munster or Ulster have to face a full strength Leinster anywhere they will be beaten and beaten comfortably. The only chance either would have is if Leinster didn't know where the game was on and forfeit rules would apply.
As for any Ulster v Munster game - Both at full strength there wouldn't be much in it.
Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:37 pm
by jean valjean
Shan wrote:Hardly matters. If Munster or Ulster have to face a full strength Leinster anywhere they will be beaten and beaten comfortably. The only chance either would have is if Leinster didn't know where the game was on and forfeit rules would apply.
As for any Ulster v Munster game - Both at full strength there wouldn't be much in it.
Agree the result would not be in doubt, but a bit unfair Leinster get a home semi no matter what if it occurs.
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Re: Euro Draw 17/18
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:38 pm
by Neill_M
3 week ban (reduced from 6 week starting point) for Mr Bastereaud for his choice of words on Sunday v Treviso - misses the Scarlets game and the 1st 6N game v Ireland.
4 week ban for nice Mr Haskell.
