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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby UlsterNo9 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:29 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43893962

According to reports Ulster branch has acted and fined Coleraine therefore what case has Coleraine RFC left to answer?

The matter therefore should be closed. Is this a case the referees association is taking matters into their own hands.

There was also an Ulster rugby open training session at Coleraine during the summer. Some sponsor hoarding in prime position for photos.

If Coleraine have already taken their punishment are they now expected to say please sir punish me some more.
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Russ » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:08 am

UlsterNo9 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43893962

According to reports Ulster branch has acted and fined Coleraine therefore what case has Coleraine RFC left to answer?

The matter therefore should be closed. Is this a case the referees association is taking matters into their own hands.

There was also an Ulster rugby open training session at Coleraine during the summer. Some sponsor hoarding in prime position for photos.

If Coleraine have already taken their punishment are they now expected to say please sir punish me some more.
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Polly Cotton » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:55 am

Mr 9. Coleraine received a £2k fine and that was suspended , do you blieve that is enough punishment to deter others being sexually abusive to Referees ?
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Dave » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:57 am

End rape culture now
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Russ » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:47 am

Polly Cotton wrote:Mr 9. Coleraine received a £2k fine and that was suspended , do you blieve that is enough punishment to deter others being sexually abusive to Referees ?
I believe she was abused because of xer gender
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby UlsterNo9 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:52 am

Russ wrote:
Polly Cotton wrote:Mr 9. Coleraine received a £2k fine and that was suspended , do you blieve that is enough punishment to deter others being sexually abusive to Referees ?
I believe she was abused because of xer gender
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Wow, oh Polly Cotton an accusation of molestation! Can you substantiate that please.

If a governing body decides the punishment fits the crime that's good enough for me. They will have had all of the facts presented from both sides, not just the local tittle tattle.

Now Polly if said person has been molested as you advise you've "cottoned" onto (not a few whatsapps) that is despicable and this should be a matter for the criminal courts.
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby BR » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:35 am

UlsterNo9 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43893962

According to reports Ulster branch has acted and fined Coleraine therefore what case has Coleraine RFC left to answer?

The matter therefore should be closed. Is this a case the referees association is taking matters into their own hands.

There was also an Ulster rugby open training session at Coleraine during the summer. Some sponsor hoarding in prime position for photos.

If Coleraine have already taken their punishment are they now expected to say please sir punish me some more.

Yip, for me if the Refs have a problem with the level of sanctions being given by the branch, then their action should be directed at the branch; not one particular club.

The disciplinary process needs to be final and respected. If you think it needs changed, then campaign for that; not the overturning of earlier decisions.
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Neill_M » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:30 am

The Coleraine Cooke game in the Junior Cup is being played at Cooke next Saturday.
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Rooster » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:31 am

Neill_M wrote:The Coleraine Cooke game in the Junior Cup is being played at Cooke next Saturday.
Perhaps this will settle it all
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Gerald the Mole » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:39 pm

Maybe the BBC interest will move things on, the club had a meeting with members and they all support the club stance, does that imply they agreed with the abusive comments
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby rumncoke » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:26 am

Its not the first or last time "BOYS ' have sung a few rugby songs at matches or after and I do have certain sympathy for the endowed lady assitant referee --- once might be funny but you don't want to be running a line hearing the same chorus every week.

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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Gerald the Mole » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:13 pm

rumncoke wrote:Its not the first or last time "BOYS ' have sung a few rugby songs at matches or after and I do have certain sympathy for the endowed lady assitant referee --- once might be funny but you don't want to be running a line hearing the same chorus every week.

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knobhead, it was not a few songs it was fully directed sexist abuse
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby UlsterNo9 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:39 pm

Gerald the Mole wrote:
rumncoke wrote:Its not the first or last time "BOYS ' have sung a few rugby songs at matches or after and I do have certain sympathy for the endowed lady assitant referee --- once might be funny but you don't want to be running a line hearing the same chorus every week.

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knobhead, it was not a few songs it was fully directed sexist abuse



Any evidence ger?

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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby pwrmoore » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:55 am

Latest - seems to be resolved....


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-45946368

Coleraine Rugby Club fined £5,000 over female referee abuse

By Mark Simpson
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Coleraine Rugby Club has been fined £5,000 by Ulster rugby authorities after a female referee was verbally abused at the club last season.

The referee, who was the target of sexist, verbal abuse from the touchline, is understood to be Grainne Crabtree.

She is a former City of Derry player.

Rugby referees refused to officiate at Coleraine's home matches after the incident in March, but have now agreed to end their protest.

However, it is not clear whether or not Coleraine has apologised to the referee.

The club is refusing to answer questions about the incident, including whether or not any internal disciplinary action has been taken.
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◾Club fined for abuse of female referee

'Long-running dispute'

In a statement, the club made no direct reference to the referee at the centre of the verbal abuse.

"Coleraine Rugby Club is pleased that there has been a resolution to the long-running dispute involving rugby's Ulster Branch Referees Society and the club," a spokesperson said.

"The club has accepted the decision of the Ulster Branch review into this matter.

Coleraine Rugby Club has refused to answer questions about the incident

"We are now looking forward to giving a warm welcome to all referees and teams visiting our club for matches this week and in the future."

It is believed that although the club has been fined £5,000, there will be £2,000 returned in two years if there are no further incidents.

Ulster Rugby authorities have carried out two investigations into the incident.

Has the issue been resolved?

There appears to be an attempt within rugby to brush this controversy under the carpet.

Last month, Ulster rugby referees raised two issues:
◾The absence of an apology to referee Grainne Crabtree
◾The lack of internal disciplinary action by Coleraine.

Now, all sides seem prepared to move on without addressing these issues publicly.

They appear to be hoping that if they keep refusing give answers the questions will simply go away.

'Respect for referees'

Following the latest investigation, a spokesperson said: "Following a recommendation by the review panel, the IRFU Ulster Branch has imposed a fine on Coleraine RFC.

"This sanction has been accepted by the club.

"While the Coleraine RFC issue is now closed, the IRFU Ulster Branch is actively considering how to promote respect for referees."

Ulster Rugby authorities have carried out two investigations into the incident

The verbal abuse thrown at Ms Crabtree occurred at a fixture between Coleraine RFC and Dromore last season.

The two clubs are due to play each other again on Saturday.

The Ulster Society of Rugby Football Referees (USRFR) has agreed to resume duties at Coleraine.

"Our interest is the protection of our volunteer members and we are assured by the branch that they are actively reviewing measures to ensure their future well-being," a spokesperson said.

Last month the referee's society said no individual had been "held to account by Coleraine RFC and no apology has been received by the referee".

Their latest statement made no reference to either of these issues.
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Re: Qualifying Rugby

Postby Rooster » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:01 pm

You would like to think Coleraine has at least apologised to the ref
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