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jean valjean wrote:I see master Rea has drawn the short straw of a Scottish disciplinary panel. Expect at least 3 weeks if not more.

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Didn't the connacht player who stamped on van der flier also get a scottish panel and he got off really lightly.
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boyg wrote:Premier Sports have clearly emptied the bank in winning their bid to cover the Pro14 with a promise to cover every match, leaving little to spend on commentary and analysis but more importantly too few cameras.
It does seem like there are fewer angles available than previously.
I don't see it as a problem though since all teams will be affected by it.
They had cameras in each corner this week which was a change up from just 2 cameras on half way at posh stand last match but it is not good enough for tmo use
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WeeWorld wrote:
boyg wrote:Premier Sports have clearly emptied the bank in winning their bid to cover the Pro14 with a promise to cover every match, leaving little to spend on commentary and analysis but more importantly too few cameras.
It does seem like there are fewer angles available than previously.
I don't see it as a problem though since all teams will be affected by it.
They had cameras in each corner this week which was a change up from just 2 cameras on half way at posh stand last match but it is not good enough for tmo use
I have said before and I will again unless each match is given the exact same criteria in terms of cameras/ angles etc (and that in itself is not always possible) then there will always be the risk of less cameras angles at one match missing a match winning or losing incident whilst too many cameras at another impacting in the opposite manner.
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boyg wrote:Burns is a solid player with good footballing skills. His major asset over McPhillips is he plays close to the gain line. Phillips flatters to deceive because he sits too deep in the pocket which means he puts his midfield under pressure in attack. This is evidence by the lack of opportunities or indeed scores from first phase play last year. I think we just have to bear with Burns as he is the best option we have available to us
I would say absolutely the exact opposite.

Burns is planting his feet and just shipping the ball on, it doesn't matter if he stands a yard or two closer to the line, the defenders are immediately drifting off him and onto the midfield.

McPhillips is running onto and with the ball. He's also trying to get involved in the same phase more than once.

Yeah, not there yet - but he's young.


We'll never win anything with Billy Burns at 10. Ever. McPhillips (or more likely Lowry) might develop into a 10 that could win us trophies in a couple of years - which is fine as the rest of the team with 2 or 3 exceptions won't be near the standard to win trophies till at least then anyhow.

Hence why I'd rather play those two than BB. What we lose now we gain later.
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Look lads, Billy played in the bosh merchant league so he must be great. McPhilips dug us out of a hole last season playing some good rugby and deserves to stay with the A team.

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Billy has some unconventional footwork when passing the ball. Paddy leans off his inside foot and the ball glides out to centres. Smooth as silk. Pienaar to PJ to Olding to Cave to the wings was rugby porn. Cooney's passing has been erratic at times. There is very little fluidity in the back line.
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Ach McPhillips doesn't really have the makings of a trophy winning 10. Lowry does if he can survive his height.
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WeeWorld wrote:
boyg wrote:Premier Sports have clearly emptied the bank in winning their bid to cover the Pro14 with a promise to cover every match, leaving little to spend on commentary and analysis but more importantly too few cameras.
It does seem like there are fewer angles available than previously.
I don't see it as a problem though
No of course you don't, your head is full of hobbyhorse's shyte you moron. Boy George explained it but no, you don't see a problem. :duh: :duh: :duh:

The play that cost a try which as boyg explained looked ok on the available angles, will not happen in every game so no you idiot, not all teams will be affected by it or similar instances, some may, all will not.

Boyg, a well-made point and in fairness, not something that had really occurred to me because I am largely new to this business of "Tommying". The lack of cameras up and down the pitch must be an issue for TMOs, I wonder will the league make the point at some stage?
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jean valjean wrote:I see master Rea has drawn the short straw of a Scottish disciplinary panel. Expect at least 3 weeks if not more.

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Didn't the connacht player who stamped on van der flier also get a scottish panel and he got off really lightly.
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Amiga500 wrote:
boyg wrote:Burns is a solid player with good footballing skills. His major asset over McPhillips is he plays close to the gain line. Phillips flatters to deceive because he sits too deep in the pocket which means he puts his midfield under pressure in attack. This is evidence by the lack of opportunities or indeed scores from first phase play last year. I think we just have to bear with Burns as he is the best option we have available to us
I would say absolutely the exact opposite.

Burns is planting his feet and just shipping the ball on, it doesn't matter if he stands a yard or two closer to the line, the defenders are immediately drifting off him and onto the midfield.

McPhillips is running onto and with the ball. He's also trying to get involved in the same phase more than once.

Yeah, not there yet - but he's young.


We'll never win anything with Billy Burns at 10. Ever. McPhillips (or more likely Lowry) might develop into a 10 that could win us trophies in a couple of years - which is fine as the rest of the team with 2 or 3 exceptions won't be near the standard to win trophies till at least then anyhow.

Hence why I'd rather play those two than BB. What we lose now we gain later.
NOt too much I disagree with there, just one major point. Ulster will not be winning any trophy in 2 years time. This will be a job of work, I'm sticking with 3-5 years to be convincing contenders, not necessarily winners. We are so many miles off being a good team it isn't even worth thinking about.

Can we become decent in the shorter term? Yeah, I think we can get back to being able to take a few big scalps before too long, but winning something is a whole different kettle of budgies.
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I would say absolutely the exact opposite.

Burns is planting his feet and just shipping the ball on, it doesn't matter if he stands a yard or two closer to the line, the defenders are immediately drifting off him and onto the midfield.

McPhillips is running onto and with the ball. He's also trying to get involved in the same phase more than once.

Yeah, not there yet - but he's young.


We'll never win anything with Billy Burns at 10. Ever. McPhillips (or more likely Lowry) might develop into a 10 that could win us trophies in a couple of years - which is fine as the rest of the team with 2 or 3 exceptions won't be near the standard to win trophies till at least then anyhow.

Hence why I'd rather play those two than BB. What we lose now we gain later.[/quote]

I have to disagree with you re McPhillips running on to the ball. The defence does not stand still particularly when a blitz defence is used which is often the case particularly when McPhillips plays. Where I do agree with you is that young Lowry may be the best option of all. Certainly very talented. The dilemma is how to get him enough game time without getting him broken.
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BaggyTrousers wrote: The play that cost a try which as boyg explained looked ok on the available angles, will not happen in every game so no you idiot, not all teams will be affected by it or similar instances, some may, all will not.
I don't agree.
The ref was given two angles showing the incident, there was plenty in the views available to give a penalty for blocking.
He chose not to.
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BaggyTrousers wrote:
WeeWorld wrote:
jean valjean wrote:I see master Rea has drawn the short straw of a Scottish disciplinary panel. Expect at least 3 weeks if not more.

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Didn't the connacht player who stamped on van der flier also get a scottish panel and he got off really lightly.
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Rea was in a no win position

Use his handstand try and stop the player falling he will be accused of tackling the player .

Don’t and the player does a cartwheel

Why because the player jumped at and over him — idiot .

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rumncoke wrote:Why because the player jumped at and over him — idiot .

Jumping into players should be banned outside the 22
He jumped to catch the ball you fking balloon. :duh:
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