Connaught game
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Re: Connaught game
I suggest everyone get a years supply of tighten up syrup. It's gonna be a long season.
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Ignore Small Mind, he's as thick as pigshite. I suggested a couple of years back, maybe even as far back as Paynegate on 5/4/2014 that a sage of my acquaintance thought the jump for the ball outside the lineout should be banned, so I agree entirely. It creates unnecessary risk to players, so why bring tackle height down to diddy level and allow folk to jump?BR wrote:They always have beenWeeWorld wrote:That might lead to more injuries in the back three as they'd be targeted to receive man and ball at the same time.BR wrote:The more logical way to protect players is for the IRB to ban the jump rather than expect the other 29 players on the pitch to ensure he makes it down safely.
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I hope you are right oh wise sage, we seem to getting very slowly better and our forwards are finding their old dog again, wish I could get over but nae chance again.BaggyTrousers wrote:Come here now, til I tell yis. There isn't too much to say after that, but I'll tal yis anyway.
Tigers, like Connacht, don't win at Ravenhill, but they have never had a better chance. This is where we are, get used to it, getting angry is a waste of time.
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Sweet Jesus Small Mind, did you draw that?
NEVER MOVE ON. Years on, I cannot ever watch Ireland with anything but indifference, I continue to wish for the imminent death of Donal Spring, the FIRFUC's executioner of Wee Paddy & Wee Stu, and I hate the FIRFUCs with undiminished passion.
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That was a disappointing loss last night no question. Fair play to Connacht but if we are going to lose that kind of game At Home then this really could be a painful season. Decent home form can means a lot. Even with those dreadful away capitulations under Kiss we were top of our euro group going into the last game and sitting in a playoff spot for europe in the pro14 when he rightly departed.
We have set 2 unwanted records in the past couple of weeks and that has got to drain confidence. Beating Tigers next week is a MUST. Not for european progression but to try to restore some confidence. We need to get some early points on the board as with confidence now low we cannot expect to come back like we did earlier in the season, when we also had our fair share of fortune.
Recruitment for next season shpuld already be a big priority. A c,earlur would be great but whilst the likes of Deysel can be replaced by someone better, a lot of the dross is irish qualified and will be more difficult to replace. We can’t cut player numbers so cutting some loose means they have to be replaced.
We have set 2 unwanted records in the past couple of weeks and that has got to drain confidence. Beating Tigers next week is a MUST. Not for european progression but to try to restore some confidence. We need to get some early points on the board as with confidence now low we cannot expect to come back like we did earlier in the season, when we also had our fair share of fortune.
Recruitment for next season shpuld already be a big priority. A c,earlur would be great but whilst the likes of Deysel can be replaced by someone better, a lot of the dross is irish qualified and will be more difficult to replace. We can’t cut player numbers so cutting some loose means they have to be replaced.
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Possibly right Crouchie, but of course on the telly - where I haven't missed a game all year, home or away - we didn't see much of Buckley & TOT, Belham, however, was savaging Big Licence, but given the scrum was going back straight at times, I'd surmise both sides were in trouble and in the first half it suited Connacht to wheel the Ulster pack towards the touchline hence when it went round, it went on Warwick's side. That me ould China almost certainly owed much more to where Connacht wanted it to go rather than whether either of our props got beasted more than t'other.thecrouch wrote:OToole was fine, it was Warwick who was getting destroyed.CIMANFOREVER wrote:There is a stuuning naivity or stupidity in UR management to start a 20y.o. tight head against about the best scrummaging loosehead in Ireland. Helen Kellar couldve saw that outcome. Hard lesson for TOT, Kane shouldve started as a tactical selection to take the steam out of Buckley. He must've licked his lips at the thought of a callow tighthead. This is a guy who duffed Afoa 5 years ago fs. McFarland got that call wrong. Horses for courses.
That said I've never propped in my life so could be talking through my nipsy, perhaps CIMAN or some other ex-sweaty could adjudicate on my theory.
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Not disagreeing MUM, I'd just suggest that if someone offers you a discount on a three-year dose, jump at it.mid ulster maestro wrote:I suggest everyone get a years supply of tighten up syrup. It's gonna be a long season.
This is not going to disappear overnight. When I saw the emerging squad as very few additions came in for the mass exodus, my fear was that we would be so thin that if we either had injuries or turned sideways, people would think we were away home. We are so thin on both experience and definite talent that we could hide behind a golf club, and no not a clubhouse, just yin of the 14 allowed to be taken on the course in a beg.
We've got injuries, we are as thin as something incredibly thin. It may have been Jesus but I think it was Bobby Zimmermann who said: a hard rain is gonna fall.
What'll you do now my blue-eyed son?
Oh, what'll you do now, my darling young one?
I'm a-goin' back out 'fore the rain starts a-fallin'
I'll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison
Where the executioner's face is always well-hidden
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten
Where black is the color, where none is the number
And I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it
And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it
Then I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin'
But I'll know my song well before I start singin'
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall
He knows his shyte our Bobby.
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Ian Davies and his officiating team have just let Cardiff player away with clattering someone in the air with a harsher landing, whilst making 0 attempt to catch the ball
Advantage was called over
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Happy to oblige you both. Warwick was in trouble, couldnt even get bound properly and Bealham isnt even a particularly destructive prop. However Buckley is and he got under TOT a number of times , driving him up up and across Rory and splintering the scrum, even with Hendo at tight (i think.) Watch the video replay of the game (if u can find it lol) Some borderline illegal, some from sheer pressure and technique. The PT was a collective capitulation tbf but the scrum was considerably more stable when Kane came on. Look TOT is 19-20 fs hes learning the hard way, against I believe, a better technical scrummager than either Healey or McGrath. Joe just doesnt like him. However back to Crouchie, TOT wasnt ok, he was schooled by both technique and power, and TH was targeted defo, but no disgrace. Kane is further along the path and a more solid scrummager than TOT atm. 2 years is a big difference. Thats why I wouldve started Kane, faced with Buckley. TOT has a great game in the loose but hes currently callow in the tight against good technical scrummagers. Warwick has found his ceiling sadly.BaggyTrousers wrote:Possibly right Crouchie, but of course on the telly - where I haven't missed a game all year, home or away - we didn't see much of Buckley & TOT, Belham, however, was savaging Big Licence, but given the scrum was going back straight at times, I'd surmise both sides were in trouble and in the first half it suited Connacht to wheel the Ulster pack towards the touchline hence when it went round, it went on Warwick's side. That me ould China almost certainly owed much more to where Connacht wanted it to go rather than whether either of our props got beasted more than t'other.thecrouch wrote:OToole was fine, it was Warwick who was getting destroyed.CIMANFOREVER wrote:There is a stuuning naivity or stupidity in UR management to start a 20y.o. tight head against about the best scrummaging loosehead in Ireland. Helen Kellar couldve saw that outcome. Hard lesson for TOT, Kane shouldve started as a tactical selection to take the steam out of Buckley. He must've licked his lips at the thought of a callow tighthead. This is a guy who duffed Afoa 5 years ago fs. McFarland got that call wrong. Horses for courses.
That said I've never propped in my life so could be talking through my nipsy, perhaps CIMAN or some other ex-sweaty could adjudicate on my theory.
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Tell you what though it will show TOT what he needs to work on and the level he has to get to at the very least, might have been a harsh lesson but will do him good in the long term.
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wasn't it great that the broadcaster feck up and showed the game live and for free... EIR1 that is.
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Cheers for that CIMAN - but you could just have said I was right.CIMANFOREVER wrote:Happy to oblige you both. Warwick was in trouble, couldnt even get bound properly and Bealham isnt even a particularly destructive prop. However Buckley is and he got under TOT a number of times , driving him up up and across Rory and splintering the scrum, even with Hendo at tight (i think.) Watch the video replay of the game (if u can find it lol) Some borderline illegal, some from sheer pressure and technique. The PT was a collective capitulation tbf but the scrum was considerably more stable when Kane came on. Look TOT is 19-20 fs hes learning the hard way, against I believe, a better technical scrummager than either Healey or McGrath. Joe just doesnt like him. However back to Crouchie, TOT wasnt ok, he was schooled by both technique and power, and TH was targeted defo, but no disgrace. Kane is further along the path and a more solid scrummager than TOT atm. 2 years is a big difference. Thats why I wouldve started Kane, faced with Buckley. TOT has a great game in the loose but hes currently callow in the tight against good technical scrummagers. Warwick has found his ceiling sadly.BaggyTrousers wrote:Possibly right Crouchie, but of course on the telly - where I haven't missed a game all year, home or away - we didn't see much of Buckley & TOT, Belham, however, was savaging Big Licence, but given the scrum was going back straight at times, I'd surmise both sides were in trouble and in the first half it suited Connacht to wheel the Ulster pack towards the touchline hence when it went round, it went on Warwick's side. That me ould China almost certainly owed much more to where Connacht wanted it to go rather than whether either of our props got beasted more than t'other.thecrouch wrote:OToole was fine, it was Warwick who was getting destroyed.CIMANFOREVER wrote:There is a stuuning naivity or stupidity in UR management to start a 20y.o. tight head against about the best scrummaging loosehead in Ireland. Helen Kellar couldve saw that outcome. Hard lesson for TOT, Kane shouldve started as a tactical selection to take the steam out of Buckley. He must've licked his lips at the thought of a callow tighthead. This is a guy who duffed Afoa 5 years ago fs. McFarland got that call wrong. Horses for courses.
That said I've never propped in my life so could be talking through my nipsy, perhaps CIMAN or some other ex-sweaty could adjudicate on my theory.
Anyway, I more or less agree with your comments on the players. To add, I think it's also fair to say that what you can't expect from very young props is week in and week out consistency. I thought Kane had regressed last season for most of the season, this year he's looked better again. I've long hoped that Big Licence could deliver on the early promise and in fairness, in the last load of games last season, when we were staring down the barrel of finishing below Treviso, he played damn well right to the finish of the season.
I am however beginning to accept that when you are hanging onto hopes about players with 50+ caps never mind 101, you are down at the end of lonely street..........across the road from Heartbreak Hotel. Maintaining the theme, I suspect that we will spend much of this season at the dark end of the street:
At the dark end of the street
That's where we always meet
Hiding in shadows where we don't belong
Living in darkness to hide our wrong
You and me, at the dark end of the street
You and me
That's what you get from 8 years of a bluffer running your club. "Low ebb" doesn't do it justice.
NEVER MOVE ON. Years on, I cannot ever watch Ireland with anything but indifference, I continue to wish for the imminent death of Donal Spring, the FIRFUC's executioner of Wee Paddy & Wee Stu, and I hate the FIRFUCs with undiminished passion.
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Little darling come alone
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13,109 for that one. 14,363 for the corresponding fixture last year.
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I understand that Admiral Nelson, at a moment of high dudgeon, turned to Hardy and said, "Fetch me my brown trousers". Like old yin-eye, I suspect whoever works the abacus and tots the schillings at Ravenhill will be making a similar call soon. Very soon, we could become the new Munster but without the players.big mervyn wrote:13,109 for that one. 14,363 for the corresponding fixture last year.
NEVER MOVE ON. Years on, I cannot ever watch Ireland with anything but indifference, I continue to wish for the imminent death of Donal Spring, the FIRFUC's executioner of Wee Paddy & Wee Stu, and I hate the FIRFUCs with undiminished passion.