Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

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Cracker wrote:Peter Stringer is the best commentator I have heard for a long time. Clear and knowledgeable.
Have to agree. He was excellent.
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BR wrote:
Dave wrote:Where is the international 9 we signed over the summer? No sign of him in any A squad or injury lists?
Not officially here yet.
Officially here and officially gone again.
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shamalicious wrote:Enjoying Strings as co-commentator.

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Gerald the Mole wrote:
BR wrote:
Dave wrote:Where is the international 9 we signed over the summer? No sign of him in any A squad or injury lists?
Not officially here yet.
Officially here and officially gone again.
Who was it?

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BaggyTrousers wrote:
Eggs wrote:Very disappointing. So far this season we seem to be able to hold the ball for long periods of time without really putting the defence under any pressure. All three games so far we haven’t really looked dangerous in the opposition 22, the defensive line just spread across the pitch and have us covered.

Problem seems to be that we aren’t sucking enough players in around the fringes/through the middle of the rucks. Flat defensive lines seem to be getting the best of us.
Still counting on hammering the Cheetahs Eggs?

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I'd love to give Shanners a Chinese burn.
Oddly enough I still think we will comfortably win. @rses should be well kicked for yesterday’s showing.

Mind you, Shanahan is a disaster so who know
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Tender wrote:He’s no Beagle.
Bagel is more apt
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I thought the young guys again [shanahan excepted] seem to shine - Kernohan took his try well but stood up incredibly well in defence - held up their winger for a turnover near the end. Frustrating match to watch other than the last 20 mins. Hopefully things will click in the next few matches- too many spilled balls and lost line outs.
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Silverstu wrote:I thought the young guys again [shanahan excepted] seem to shine - Kernohan took his try well but stood up incredibly well in defence - held up their winger for a turnover near the end. Frustrating match to watch other than the last 20 mins. Hopefully things will click in the next few matches- too many spilled balls and lost line outs.
I could tolerate Shanahans performance if he was still young 18-22 years or their abouts but the guy is now 25 therefore showing close what he will ever be.

Those two pick and run options from back of scrums were face palm stuff. Surely there a pre rehearsed set piece moves off scrums.
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Be nice if Ulster knew how to hit a ruck particularly when we have the ball

I know shanners had a poor game but he wasn't helped by lack of numbers at the ruck

Were the players jaded after a long trip?
Think they travelled one day too late

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Russ wrote:Be nice if Ulster knew how to hit a ruck particularly when we have the ball

I know shanners had a poor game but he wasn't helped by lack of numbers at the ruck

Were the players jaded after a long trip?
Think they travelled one day too late

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A player of his size cannot be helped in certain situations. At times he was smashed and dispossessed in one movement. He can't pick 'n' go at the base of the ruck.
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Ulster hit the ruck before Cooney’s try — Try disallowed and player binned — its an attitude game change ref decision which alters how players play ( especially away from home )

Some refs might have even gone for a red — but the crowd wasn’t big enough .
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OK ........LOOK, Ulster were pish however, I would defy the vast majority of teams in our league to play any sort of structured game when:

1) you have a clown with one of these modern double-barrelled surnames because his father had not watched enough Edward G Robinson movies and therefore when she said, "I want him to have both our names", had not the wit to hit her gently but with a degree of firmness across the cheek and say with menace, "Never met a dame yet who didn't understand a slap in the mouth". So as a young fellow he was no doubt severely mocked.

2) as a 2nd start young ref, he was like a wee boy scout on bob-a-fu@king-job week, not a chance of him doing a decent job.

3) 21 penalties in a match by one team and yet after the first 7 and a yellow, he then gave four further warnings but no cards, so the Kings knew they could offend all day long with the spineless little Scots drip. Had Kings been down to 13 a couple of times it would not have been unjust. That makes a clear difference in getting BPs easily if not on your A game.

None of this excuses the veritable cornucopia of varied ways Ulster chose to feck it up, but it made the job a bloody challenge.

The loss of Addison before KO & Cooney before HT meant Ulster were playing two guys in key positions without a hint of ability to perform them adequately. Neither one now can be termed a nipper, neither has shown any signs that they are up to pro rugby. At one stage Admiral looked like he might kick on but his pace perhaps masked his shortcomings. The two lads sadly are duds. I always hate the realisation that a guy just isn't good enough but there is no point whatsoever in sugarcoating things.

p got 11 seasons when a blind man could see he was fatally flawed, but he at least had some genuine ability and a heart like a lion, these guys are simply poor. I hope Dan has learned that he would have been better sticking Gilly at 15 and playing Kernohan, and that whatever chance of him developing as a 9 that Stewart has, Shanahan has none whatsoever, he is the totally impoverished man's p without a tenth of the other PORG's skill and ability. You have no idea how painful I find having to semi-eulogise p having called for his gassing for 6 consecutive years, only to find him gassed when we have had nobody close to as good as his inadequate best.

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UlsterNo9 wrote:
Silverstu wrote:I thought the young guys again [shanahan excepted] seem to shine - Kernohan took his try well but stood up incredibly well in defence - held up their winger for a turnover near the end. Frustrating match to watch other than the last 20 mins. Hopefully things will click in the next few matches- too many spilled balls and lost line outs.
I could tolerate Shanahans performance if he was still young 18-22 years or their abouts but the guy is now 25 therefore showing close what he will ever be.

Those two pick and run options from back of scrums were face palm stuff. Surely there a pre rehearsed set piece moves off scrums.

Shanners doesn't have a box kick of note, doesn't have a break to keep fringers in, doesn't have physicality, doesn't offer much control at lineout or scrum, and doesn't have the capacity to make quick decisions on the hoof . All he has is a passable pass........ He should've upped his game by now and he hasn't.
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

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Shanahan has nothing to offer at 9 never did and never will.. sorry to be blunt but the truth may hurt. We specialise in giving 200 plus caps to a 9 that held back any talent more than Ruan ever did and we risk giving Shanahan one more cap too many.. thankfully I hear that one youngster could be the real deal..
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