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Ulster Vs Edinburgh Friday 7th Sept 7.35pm KO Premier Sports

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Re: Ulster Vs Edinburgh Friday 7th Sept 7.35pm KO Premier Sp

Postby Cap'n Grumpy » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:57 pm

Bad news folks

Richard Cockerill wasn't happy with the result and seemingly the referee has admitted that he should have given Embra a penalty when we scored our first try.

Using the "Clancy Law" the try has subsequently been disallowed after the match and we have been docked the winning points ... apparently.
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Re: Ulster Vs Edinburgh Friday 7th Sept 7.35pm KO Premier Sp

Postby Rooster » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:38 pm

Cap'n Grumpy wrote:Bad news folks

Richard Cockerill wasn't happy with the result and seemingly the referee has admitted that he should have given Embra a penalty when we scored our first try.

Using the "Clancy Law" the try has subsequently been disallowed after the match and we have been docked the winning points ... apparently.
If they had looked properly Jordi the Nordi was no where near touch when he scored, the Ulster player seen in touch was Henry S and he didn't have the ball
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Re: Ulster Vs Edinburgh Friday 7th Sept 7.35pm KO Premier Sp

Postby BaggyTrousers » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:19 pm

Cap'n Grumpy wrote:Bad news folks

Richard Cockerill wasn't happy with the result and seemingly the referee has admitted that he should have given Embra a penalty when we scored our first try.

Using the "Clancy Law" the try has subsequently been disallowed after the match and we have been docked the winning points ... apparently.


I like Cockers.........the ref was perfect on our first try, asked all the correct questions of the TMO and got the right answers. Cockers did have a bleat last night about the officiating in the league, much as I like him, I recall Pat Lam being fined a wheen of grand for something not dissimilar.
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Re: Ulster Vs Edinburgh Friday 7th Sept 7.35pm KO Premier Sp

Postby Snipe Watson » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:35 pm

I thought the referee was a bit of a stickler, but consistently so.

It's probably not a popular view, but letting things go is a slippery slope and teams have no consistency from week to week. If the laws were properly enforced there wouldn't be the need for continual tinkering with the laws.
I see the straight feed into the scrum focus from last season has gone by the wayside.
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Re: Ulster Vs Edinburgh Friday 7th Sept 7.35pm KO Premier Sp

Postby rumncoke » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:16 am

We all know refs make mistakes and most have complained about them its nothing new -- but truth be told its not always the refs fault a lot of the fault in my opinion rests with the laws -- were one referees failure to release the ball is another refs failure to release the player and the fact that what is in many cases a debatable decision is a 3 point penalty and even on occasion a yellow card or yellow card and penalty try .

Referees have a difficult task to make a game where both teams play beyond the laws -- to make the game watchable thus many infringements go unpunished.

In relation to Corkerills' complaint there was crossing -- but it took place so close to the line and space available was such the try was always on regardless.

What 's biting the man is Ulster applied crossing or effectively and at the proper time better than Edinburgh -- they had done a couple of times as well. just less obviously .

Look at Sexton yesterday knowing runs across ( infront of a defender yesterday ) who gives him a worthy shoulder in the back for his deliberate block ---- Sexton goes to ground like he's been shot -- and the player gets a yellow card just before half time -- at best it was a penalty -- but whose -- A penalty against Sexton for blocking -- or a penalty for a nudge off the ball . Who would want to be a ref ?
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Re: Ulster Vs Edinburgh Friday 7th Sept 7.35pm KO Premier Sp

Postby rumncoke » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:18 am

We all know refs make mistakes and most have complained about them its nothing new -- but truth be told its not always the refs fault a lot of the fault in my opinion rests with the laws -- were one referees failure to release the ball is another refs failure to release the player and the fact that what is in many cases a debatable decision is a 3 point penalty and even on occasion a yellow card or yellow card and penalty try .

Referees have a difficult task to make a game where both teams play beyond the laws -- to make the game watchable thus many infringements go unpunished.

In relation to Corkerills' complaint there was crossing -- but it took place so close to the line and space available was such the try was always on regardless.

What 's biting the man is Ulster applied crossing or effectively and at the proper time better than Edinburgh -- they had done a couple of times as well. just less obviously .

Look at Sexton yesterday knowing runs across ( infront of a defender yesterday ) who gives him a worthy shoulder in the back for his deliberate block ---- Sexton goes to ground like he's been shot -- and the player gets a yellow card just before half time -- at best it was a penalty -- but whose -- A penalty against Sexton for blocking -- or a penalty for a nudge off the ball . Who would want to be a ref ?
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