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Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

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Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby Neill_M » Tue May 29, 2018 10:31 am

Depending on the result of Saturday's T14 Final - the final pots for the draw on June 20th will be:

Montpellier Win T14

Pro 14 No2 & 4 in Pot 2
Leinster, Saracens, Montpellier, Exeter, Castres
Scarlets, Glasgow, Wasps, Racing 92, Munster
Newcastle, Lyon, Edinburgh, Tigers, Toulouse
Cardiff, Toulon, Bath, Ulster, Gloucester

Prem No2 & 4 in Pot 2
Leinster, Saracens, Montpellier, Scarlets, Castres
Exeter, Glasgow, Wasps, Racing 92, Newcastle
Munster, Lyon, Edinburgh, Tigers, Toulouse
Cardiff, Toulon, Bath, Ulster, Gloucester

T14 No2 & 4 in Pot 2
Leinster, Saracens, Montpellier, Exeter, Scarlets
Castres, Glasgow, Wasps, Racing 92, Lyon
Munster, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Tigers, Toulouse
Cardiff, Toulon, Bath, Ulster, Gloucester

Castres Win T14

Pro 14 No2 & 4 in Pot 2
Leinster, Saracens, Castres, Exeter, Montpellier
Scarlets, Glasgow, Wasps, Racing 92, Munster
Newcastle, Lyon, Edinburgh, Tigers, Toulouse
Cardiff, Toulon, Bath, Ulster, Gloucester

Prem No2 & 4 in Pot 2
Leinster, Saracens, Castres, Scarlets, Montpellier
Exeter, Glasgow, Wasps, Racing 92, Newcastle
Munster, Lyon, Edinburgh, Tigers, Toulouse
Cardiff, Toulon, Bath, Ulster, Gloucester

T14 No2 & 4 in Pot 2
Leinster, Saracens, Castres, Exeter, Scarlets
Montpellier, Glasgow, Wasps, Racing 92, Lyon
Munster, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Tigers, Toulouse
Cardiff, Toulon, Bath, Ulster, Gloucester

There is a mini draw before the main draw to decide which of the leagues' 2nd and 4th seeds go into Pot 2. Ulster cannot draw anyone else in Pot 4 (Cardiff, Toulon, Bath or Gloucester) or Leinster/Munster. The only Pro 14 sides they can draw are Scarlets/Glasgow/Edinburgh. The various scenarios for Ulster are below:

Ulster’s Fate

The result in the Top 14 Final does not impact on either the Pro 14/Prem scenarios.

Pro 14 Scenario (2 & 4 in P2)
Exeter/Saracens, Scarlets/Glasgow, Lyon/Toulouse
Exeter/Saracens, Racing 92, Edinburgh
Montpellier/Castres, Scarlets/Glasgow, Newcastle/Tigers
Montpellier/Castres, Wasps, Edinburgh

Prem Scenario (2 & 4 in P2)
Scarlets, Exeter/Wasps/Newcastle, Lyon/Toulouse
Scarlets, Racing 92, Tigers
Saracens, Glasgow, Lyon/Toulouse
Saracens, Racing 92, Edinburgh
Montpellier/Castres, Exeter/Wasps/Newcastle, Edinburgh
Montpellier/Castres, Glasgow, Tigers

Montpellier Win T14

T14 Scenario (2 & 4 in P2)
Scarlets, Castres/Racing 92/Lyon, Newcastle/Tigers
Scarlets, Wasps, Toulouse
Exeter/Saracens, Castres/Racing92/Lyon, Edinburgh
Exeter/Saracens, Glasgow, Toulouse
Montpellier, Glasgow, Tigers
Montpellier, Wasps, Edinburgh

Castres Win T14

T14 Scenario (2 & 4 in P2)
Scarlets, Montpellier/Racing 92/Lyon, Newcastle/Tigers
Scarlets, Wasps, Toulouse
Exeter/Saracens, Montpellier/Racing92/Lyon, Edinburgh
Exeter/Saracens, Glasgow, Toulouse
Castres, Glasgow, Tigers
Castres, Wasps, Edinburgh

Enjoy..... :D
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby big mervyn » Tue May 29, 2018 10:45 am

We'll take Castre, Newcastle, Embra
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby UlsterNo9 » Tue May 29, 2018 10:47 am

And in English? :lol: :scratch:
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby Rooster » Tue May 29, 2018 10:49 am

Have they any sponsors for next season ?
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby Dave » Tue May 29, 2018 11:30 am

Would love to get Montpellier and boo the life out of Judas Pienaar.
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby BR » Tue May 29, 2018 11:33 am

Neill - is it confirmed there are no changes to the draw method this year?

The one that would concern me is: Will the 'No 2 teams from the same Pro14 union' rule still apply for the 7th placed team? In other words could Ulster draw Leinster or Munster.
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby UlsterNo9 » Tue May 29, 2018 11:39 am

BR wrote:Neill - is it confirmed there are no changes to the draw method this year?

The one that would concern me is: Will the 'No 2 teams from the same Pro14 union' rule still apply for the 7th placed team? In other words could Ulster draw Leinster or Munster.


Don't have the link now but I'm 100% confident I read that Pro14 teams could not draw another same country team in the group stages. This does not apply to English and French teams.
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby BR » Tue May 29, 2018 11:51 am

UlsterNo9 wrote:
BR wrote:Neill - is it confirmed there are no changes to the draw method this year?

The one that would concern me is: Will the 'No 2 teams from the same Pro14 union' rule still apply for the 7th placed team? In other words could Ulster draw Leinster or Munster.


Don't have the link now but I'm 100% confident I read that Pro14 teams could not draw another same country team in the group stages. This does not apply to English and French teams.

That has been the case in the past. I haven't seen any confirmation/update from ERC this year.

The status of qualifying/wild-card teams has sometimes meant the draw rules vary.
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby Russ » Tue May 29, 2018 11:56 am

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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby Neill_M » Tue May 29, 2018 12:17 pm

BR wrote:Neill - is it confirmed there are no changes to the draw method this year?

The one that would concern me is: Will the 'No 2 teams from the same Pro14 union' rule still apply for the 7th placed team? In other words could Ulster draw Leinster or Munster.


I making an assumption that this rule still applies. Dangerous approach I know when it comes to the Swiss Lionels.
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby BR » Tue May 29, 2018 12:19 pm

Neill_M wrote:
BR wrote:Neill - is it confirmed there are no changes to the draw method this year?

The one that would concern me is: Will the 'No 2 teams from the same Pro14 union' rule still apply for the 7th placed team? In other words could Ulster draw Leinster or Munster.


I making an assumption that this rule still applies. Dangerous approach I know when it comes to the Swiss Lionels.

I imagine you're safe enough.
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby Bring Humph On!! » Tue May 29, 2018 12:29 pm

Montpellier was a great trip last time. Don’t see a similar result happening mind.
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby justinr73 » Tue May 29, 2018 12:49 pm

Should be some good trips.

Lyon would be nice.

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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby 222toHounslow » Tue May 29, 2018 12:50 pm

Bring Humph On!! wrote:Montpellier was a great trip last time. Don’t see a similar result happening mind.



Best away match I’ve been to. Jim Nagusa playing touch rugby in the square after the match was a laugh. I say this even though parts of the weekend are a mystery such was the amount of gin taken.
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Re: Heineken Cup 18/19 Draw - June 20th

Postby BR » Tue May 29, 2018 1:59 pm

222toHounslow wrote:
Bring Humph On!! wrote:Montpellier was a great trip last time. Don’t see a similar result happening mind.



Best away match I’ve been to. Jim Nagusa playing touch rugby in the square after the match was a laugh. I say this even though parts of the weekend are a mystery such was the amount of gin taken.

I'm fairly sure it stopped being touch rugby after midnight.

Prices in Montpelier have rise since then. Costly enough destination.
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