Dear Bryn

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We all need to give Bryn a chance, he has been in the head honcho job for about 4 months and has had to deal with the mess of the performances on the pitch, hiring a new coach and the Jackson/Olding debacle. His job is about ensuring that the long term future of Ulster is bright, the head coach's job is to ensure everything is right in the short term. We won't be able to judge Bryn's true performance for a few years. Everything he has done so far I feel is to the positive of Ulster, especially giving the Academy players a real chance in the team.
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Kanbei wrote:We all need to give Bryn a chance, he has been in the head honcho job for about 4 months and has had to deal with the mess of the performances on the pitch, hiring a new coach and the Jackson/Olding debacle. His job is about ensuring that the long term future of Ulster is bright, the head coach's job is to ensure everything is right in the short term. We won't be able to judge Bryn's true performance for a few years. Everything he has done so far I feel is to the positive of Ulster, especially giving the Academy players a real chance in the team.
From a press release 4 years ago....

"He'll now will be responsible for recruiting and retaining players, identifying talent and managing contract negotiations, and will also oversee the professional services around the senior squad and the management of team operations on match-nights."

So now Nigel does the match nights and the non existent Head Coach reports to him instead.

There has been no conclusion to the 'review' so how do we know what is role is going to be?

There is nothing premature in debating Bryn's impact

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ColinM wrote:
Kanbei wrote:We all need to give Bryn a chance, he has been in the head honcho job for about 4 months and has had to deal with the mess of the performances on the pitch, hiring a new coach and the Jackson/Olding debacle. His job is about ensuring that the long term future of Ulster is bright, the head coach's job is to ensure everything is right in the short term. We won't be able to judge Bryn's true performance for a few years. Everything he has done so far I feel is to the positive of Ulster, especially giving the Academy players a real chance in the team.
From a press release 4 years ago....

"He'll now will be responsible for recruiting and retaining players, identifying talent and managing contract negotiations, and will also oversee the professional services around the senior squad and the management of team operations on match-nights."

So now Nigel does the match nights and the non existent Head Coach reports to him instead.

There has been no conclusion to the 'review' so how do we know what is role is going to be?

There is nothing premature in debating Bryn's impact

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Snipe Watson wrote:
kingofthehill wrote:Can somebody tell me what positive things Bryn has brought to Ulster since he started his new job?

I’m really struggling to think of any successes.

Help me out.


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Bryn is fast approaching the end of his rope. He's a good guy, very personable, but Les Kiss was a nice guy to and Joe Barakat too.
Nice doesn't seem to be getting the job done. As for the make Bryn the CEO lobby, it's a no from me.
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The professional game absolutely needs people not only free from meddling by rank amateurs, but also for accountability to be clear and without fuzzy lines and to be free of the current facilitating of back covering. I'm in the Bryn lobby, I don't feel the need to justify it, I'll simply say I know of no other local candidate.

All that said, I suspect the early onset of dementia if you would lobby for the existing wab ahead of almost any other candidate, frankly, I'd have May McFetridge before the Liar Slogan. Gerry Adams even, one may not like him but boys oh could he organise an organisation. :terror:
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And without even being a member?????
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We're onto something here. Just need a name change to Rugby Ulster.

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ColinM wrote:We're onto something here. Just need a name change to IRISH Rugby, Ulster.

Up the IRU
Fixed
Snipe Watson wrote:
BR wrote:
Snipe Watson wrote:
BR wrote:To be fair, we always hear about lack of transparency at UR. Is it any different at any other team?
Probably not, but we don't care about it elsewhere and if we weren't such a shambles it wouldn't be such an issue.
So what you're saying is that we can't see the lack of transparency at other teams?
I think so, but can't confirm because of the lack of transparency.
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Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
ColinM wrote:We're onto something here. Just need a name change to IRISH Rugby, Ulster.

Up the IRU
Fixed
Snipe Watson wrote:
BR wrote:
Snipe Watson wrote:
BR wrote:To be fair, we always hear about lack of transparency at UR. Is it any different at any other team?
Probably not, but we don't care about it elsewhere and if we weren't such a shambles it wouldn't be such an issue.
So what you're saying is that we can't see the lack of transparency at other teams?
I think so, but can't confirm because of the lack of transparency.
Clearly! :roll:
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To be fair 'Ulster' should be spelt 'Alster' anyway
Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
ColinM wrote:We're onto something here. Just need a name change to IRISH Rugby, Ulster.

Up the IRU
Fixed
Snipe Watson wrote:
BR wrote:
Snipe Watson wrote:
BR wrote:To be fair, we always hear about lack of transparency at UR. Is it any different at any other team?
Probably not, but we don't care about it elsewhere and if we weren't such a shambles it wouldn't be such an issue.
So what you're saying is that we can't see the lack of transparency at other teams?
I think so, but can't confirm because of the lack of transparency.
Clearly! :roll:
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He's been there for 4 years so whatever your view it is certainly not one of giving him a chance as that for me is enough time to base an assessment of anyones performance on..

I would only have a slight concern if his business interest with another ex player who previously owned a well known sports agency hadn't been declared to UR in case it should represent a potential conflict of interest.
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Maybe

Irish Rugby Association is closer to the truth


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Cockatrice wrote:He's been there for 4 years so whatever your view it is certainly not one of giving him a chance as that for me is enough time to base an assessment of anyones performance on..
Difference as I see it is that for most of the preceding time he has been responsible for negotiating contracts with players chosen by head coach etc, not of his own choosing. Now he will be heavily involved in choosing which players we sign, so he takes the credit/blame when things work out/ fall flat.
Cockatrice wrote:I would only have a slight concern if his business interest with another ex player who previously owned a well known sports agency hadn't been declared to UR in case it should represent a potential conflict of interest.
Of no concern to me whatsoever. The fact that he was involved in that side of things can only be a (slight) positive from my perspexitive. (sic)
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rumncoke wrote:Maybe

Irish Rugby Association is closer to the truth
Do you really expect people to believe that "Irish Rugby" (with or without association) and "truth" can appear in the same sentence? :shock:

Now if you had put a qualifier in there - Irish Rugby and "strangers to" the truth - for example, you may have got away with it! :thumleft:
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Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:He's been there for 4 years so whatever your view it is certainly not one of giving him a chance as that for me is enough time to base an assessment of anyones performance on..
Difference as I see it is that for most of the preceding time he has been responsible for negotiating contracts with players chosen by head coach etc, not of his own choosing. Now he will be heavily involved in choosing which players we sign, so he takes the credit/blame when things work out/ fall flat.
Cockatrice wrote:I would only have a slight concern if his business interest with another ex player who previously owned a well known sports agency hadn't been declared to UR in case it should represent a potential conflict of interest.
Of no concern to me whatsoever. The fact that he was involved in that side of things can only be a (slight) positive from my perspexitive. (sic)
Sorry just trying to get this right ,so suppose a person who looks after the contracts of a business and deals with an outside agency to fulfil work force both have a totally separate business interest were both parties have to invest money into pay charges etc

So if the outside agency has no income or reduced income it would affect both parties.financially ! So there is no conflict ? .
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