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More uninformed crap

Postby prawnsarnies » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:12 pm

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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby ding dong2u » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:20 pm

What a fekkin uninformed numpty :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Tender » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:21 pm

It’s been a while since anyone called me a galloot.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby OneMore » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:23 pm

Save their visit counter the trouble:
Eamonn Sweeney

April 22 2018 5:00 PM

Is it time to abolish Ulster? Not the province, just the rugby team. After all, the IRFU were going to give Connacht the bum's rush a few years back only to change their mind after protests from some recalcitrant Western types. Perhaps it's time for another bold decision.

Jacob Stockdale could be sent to Munster to add firepower in the absence of Simon Zebo, Iain Henderson could work on his second-row partnership with James Ryan at Leinster and Rory Best's experience and leadership qualities would be invaluable to Connacht. Who else is there to worry about really? Job done.

After all, Ulster are in such disarray at the moment it'll probably be more trouble than it's worth to set them right again. Director of rugby Les Kiss has left and interim head coach Jonno Gibbes will be on his way shortly. Both men arrived with high reputations. Former Ireland defensive coach Kiss seemed like a possible future Irish manager but his stock has fallen disastrously over the past couple of years. Gibbes, a huge success as forwards coach at Leinster and Clermont-Auvergne, is leaving with a year still to run on his contract.

So it's back on the managerial merry-go-round for Ulster. Six years ago they reached the Champions Cup final against Leinster but parted company with head coach Brian McLaughlin all the same. McLaughlin cut an unglamorous figure and there was lots of talk from Ulster about the need to become world class. So in came New Zealander Mark Anscombe. His time at the helm saw two qualifications for the Champions Cup knockout stages, one after a 100 per cent record in the group stages, a record unbeaten run and an appearance in the Pro12 final.

Not good enough apparently. After Director of rugby David Humphreys left for Gloucester, Anscombe was sacked and replaced by Kiss who subsequently became director of rugby. Neil Doak had a go as coach after Kiss before being replaced by Gibbes.

All the while Ulster got worse. Four years in a row they've failed to make the knockout stages of the Champions Cup, finishing bottom of their group last season. They've become increasingly irrelevant in the Pro14 where they will probably end up having to play off against Ospreys for a place in next year's Champions Cup.

I've seen it suggested that the Belfast court case and the resultant absence of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding are partly to blame for Ulster's continued underwhelming form. Anyone making that argument should remember that last season Munster had to cope with the tragic death of their coach yet still made it to the Champions Cup semi-finals. They knuckled down, battled on and didn't feel sorry for themselves.

Self-pity never seems to be far away from Ulster. You might feel sorry for them if they didn't feel quite so sorry for themselves. Witness the players taking time out from underachievement last week to compose a statement about how 'sad' the sacking of Jackson and Olding makes them feel.

Meanwhile, a section of Ulster support has been blundering around the place and dragging the province's good name further into the mire. When a group of people concerned about the behaviour revealed in the Belfast trial took out a crowd-funded full-page ad in the Belfast Telegraph calling for Jackson and Olding to be sacked, 139 Ulster followers retaliated with one of their own supporting the players. The Ulster Rugby Supporters Club decided to tell us that the people who'd placed the first ad were not members of their club, as if this meant anything.

The club also threatened a boycott and called a protest in defence of the players which has now thankfully been cancelled. To make things even worse, they decided to survey their members and revealed that 79 per cent of them were either 'disappointed' or 'appalled' by the players being sacked, thus displaying their true colours to all and sundry. They will apparently be "writing to IRFU/Ulster Rugby next week to express members' considerable dissatisfaction and disgust at the recent turn of events."

Do these galoots not have any clue what their behaviour looks like to those outside the bubble? Are they not aware that this case has been reported and debated worldwide? Do they not know that there are many people for whom the first thing conjured up by the name Ulster Rugby is the comment by a woman alleging rape that she did not want to "go up against Ulster Rugby"? Can they not see that this case will take Ulster rugby years to live down? Do they not realise that the 'disgust' most people feel about the case has nothing to do with the contractual situation of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding?

You're left with the impression of a bunch of clowns who wanted nothing more than to see Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding run out at the Kingspan Stadium so they could give them the ovation of all ovations. What a great moment in Irish sporting history that would have been.

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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby ChrisL » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:50 pm

It seems like Ulster Supporters are not the only ones
showing their "true colours"
What a very sad bitter and twisted individual
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby 222toHounslow » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:54 pm

At least we can get past the four proud provinces and team of one shyte.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby jean valjean » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:14 pm

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 33433.html

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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby GUBU » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:20 pm

jean valjean wrote:https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/brian-odriscoll-has-his-say-on-the-irfu-wish-to-send-joey-carbery-or-ross-byrne-to-the-basket-case-at-ulster-36833433.html

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Good to see O'Driscoll willing to share his extensive experience as an orthopedic surgeon with the readers of the Independent.

He's wasted as a rugby commentator.
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Postby Cracker » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:21 pm

From this to O'Driscoll's statement in the Irish Independent that Ulster Rugby is a basket case. If it is, the fault lies firmly with the IRFU and its minions. Its little wonder that many up here have vowed never to cross the threshold of the Aviva again. If O'Driscoll had his way the entire Irish team would consist of Leinster players. My stronger views on rugby south of the border I will keep to myself.
Not to get political but when Sweeney says Ulster supporters are full of self pity if the politicians in the south by their hard views on Brexit and a hard border comes about while we will be hit the Irish economy will be destroyed with 66% of their exports going to the UK and subject to tariffs. Lets then see so where the self pity will come from then. Lets make it clear I don't want a hard border but comments like those in the Irish Indo only drive a harder wedge between us and then south.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Rovi Snave » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:23 pm

jean valjean wrote:https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/brian-odriscoll-has-his-say-on-the-irfu-wish-to-send-joey-carbery-or-ross-byrne-to-the-basket-case-at-ulster-36833433.html

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BOD can P*SS off - if they don't want to come then feck them. I'd rather see young Ulstermen at 10 even if it means we lose a few games :red: :fleg:

(note - :red: :fleg: refers to Ulster and should in no way be confused with Ulster Rugby :banghead: )
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby ColinM » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:41 pm

Fact is we are a bit of a basket case right now. OK the team's form and application has taken a turn for the better now Gibbes has had the place to himself but it was a pretty low base.

Its also right that talented players will prefer to be bit parts in competition winning sides than try and turn around the fortunes of a rudderless Ulster where there is no coach, a buffoon at the top and where the Union hasn't shown it's unwavering support in the last few years.

Byrne or Carberry could be convinced it will further their international careers and then look at Cooney, probably our player of the season in waiting, and see where that has got him in Joe's view. They could look at Sammy Arnold or Chris Farrell and see their fortunes change by going to more successful teams.

Bottom line is if one of these guys come it is because uncle Joe has them on a promise, it's not like our head coach will have sold them a dream of being at the centre of champagne rugby. And who wants to come hear now when according to the CEO we are still around about 51 years away from WD.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby stickinout » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:45 pm

GUBU wrote:
jean valjean wrote:https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/brian-odriscoll-has-his-say-on-the-irfu-wish-to-send-joey-carbery-or-ross-byrne-to-the-basket-case-at-ulster-36833433.html

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Good to see O'Driscoll willing to share his extensive experience as an orthopedic surgeon with the readers of the Independent.

He's wasted as a rugby commentator.


Bod needs to understand he is now irrelevant to Irish rugby. So Munster are sniffing around for a 10 too?

The coach needs to photocopy this and that toe rag Sweeney's story and stick it up on the changing room walls at UR..
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby austintranslation » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Clicks must have been down on Irish Indo website this week. Can't think of any other logical reason.

Meanwhile, John Cooney has weighed in with a knockout blow that the Jackel would have been proud of... Didn't think anyone could replace St Pienaar but Cooney is doing a magnificent job of it :fleg: :fleg: :fleg:

https://twitter.com/JCooney09/status/988384762619408384
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby stickinout » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:48 pm

Cracker wrote:From this to O'Driscoll's statement in the Irish Independent that Ulster Rugby is a basket case. If it is, the fault lies firmly with the IRFU and its minions. Its little wonder that many up here have vowed never to cross the threshold of the Aviva again. If O'Driscoll had his way the entire Irish team would consist of Leinster players. My stronger views on rugby south of the border I will keep to myself.
Not to get political but when Sweeney says Ulster supporters are full of self pity if the politicians in the south by their hard views on Brexit and a hard border comes about while we will be hit the Irish economy will be destroyed with 66% of their exports going to the UK and subject to tariffs. Lets then see so where the self pity will come from then. Lets make it clear I don't want a hard border but comments like those in the Irish Indo only drive a harder wedge between us and then south.



The Irish economy will look to Europe and survive. We will flounder, NI economy is already a basket case, brexit will fix nathin
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Postby promenader 2 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:48 pm

ColinM wrote:Fact is we are a bit of a basket case right now. OK the team's form and application has taken a turn for the better now Gibbes has had the place to himself but it was a pretty low base.

Its also right that talented players will prefer to be bit parts in competition winning sides than try and turn around the fortunes of a rudderless Ulster where there is no coach, a buffoon at the top and where the Union hasn't shown it's unwavering support in the last few years.

Byrne or Carberry could be convinced it will further their international careers and then look at Cooney, probably our player of the season in waiting, and see where that has got him in Joe's view. They could look at Sammy Arnold or Chris Farrell and see their fortunes change by going to more successful teams.

Bottom line is if one of these guys come it is because uncle Joe has them on a promise, it's not like our head coach will have sold them a dream of being at the centre of champagne rugby. And who wants to come hear now when according to the CEO we are still around about 51 years away from WD.

Sensible post. >clapping >clapping
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