So what now?

[promenader 2]

Brian Moore in the Daily Telegraph today:
"I have little sympathy for Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding - sacking them sends out right message"

Deja vu?
He said this at the weekend

Has he opined on Rob Kearneys sexual harassment yet?

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Has that been in the media? Do you have a link?

Do you have a copy of Lions Raw from 2009?

I'll look to dig out the online link to the specific time but it's fecking horrendous to watch

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I can see it's available on online, so I'll have a looks - thanks for flagging it up. The date, though, makes it largely irrelevant to the current debate. The atmosphere around anything construed as sexual misconduct has changed beyond recognition in the past year or two. Paddy and Stuart are victims of the new feminist-driven zeitgeist, but had it been leinster or munster players I think the outcome would have been the same.

[Rovi Snave]

Brian Moore in the Daily Telegraph today:
"I have little sympathy for Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding - sacking them sends out right message"

Deja vu?
He said this at the weekend

Has he opined on Rob Kearneys sexual harassment yet?

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Has that been in the media? Do you have a link?

Do you have a copy of Lions Raw from 2009?

I'll look to dig out the online link to the specific time but it's fecking horrendous to watch

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I can see it's available on online, so I'll have a looks - thanks for flagging it up. The date, though, makes it largely irrelevant to the current debate. The atmosphere around anything construed as sexual misconduct has changed beyond recognition in the past year or two. Paddy and Stuart are victims of the new feminist-driven zeitgeist, but had it been leinster or munster players I think the outcome would have been the same.

No it wouldn't because they could not have been named in the South if found innocent!!!

Plus their employer would have been unable to take any action which was public for fear of identifying them and leaving themselves open to charges!!!

[Russ]

Deja vu?
He said this at the weekend

Has he opined on Rob Kearneys sexual harassment yet?

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Has that been in the media? Do you have a link?

Do you have a copy of Lions Raw from 2009?

I'll look to dig out the online link to the specific time but it's fecking horrendous to watch

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I can see it's available on online, so I'll have a looks - thanks for flagging it up. The date, though, makes it largely irrelevant to the current debate. The atmosphere around anything construed as sexual misconduct has changed beyond recognition in the past year or two. Paddy and Stuart are victims of the new feminist-driven zeitgeist, but had it been leinster or munster players I think the outcome would have been the same.

No it wouldn't because they could not have been named in the South if found innocent!!!

Plus their employer would have been unable to take any action which was public for fear of identifying them and leaving themselves open to charges!!!

This

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[Jackie Brown]

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[GUBU]

Brian Moore in the Daily Telegraph today:
"I have little sympathy for Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding - sacking them sends out right message"

Deja vu?
He said this at the weekend

Has he opined on Rob Kearneys sexual harassment yet?

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Has that been in the media? Do you have a link?

Do you have a copy of Lions Raw from 2009?

I'll look to dig out the online link to the specific time but it's fecking horrendous to watch

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Moore was a great player precisely because he was an angry arsehole (and he was an angry arsehole in part for well documented reasons). He must have been an absolutely nightmare to play against (and room with) in his pomp.

Sadly, he disappeared up his own back door some years ago. Training as a referee made him a worse commentator, and access to a Twitter account has sent him all Gary Lineker.

More angry about BOD's claim that the revoking the contracts would 'end the slur against the reputation of Irish rugby', and his reference to 'the consent issue' implies that he doesn't entirely agree with the verdict of the court case.

Why does sports commentary turn so many former players into self-regarding twats?

[Russ]

Brian Moore in the Daily Telegraph today:
"I have little sympathy for Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding - sacking them sends out right message"

Deja vu?
He said this at the weekend

Has he opined on Rob Kearneys sexual harassment yet?

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Has that been in the media? Do you have a link?

Do you have a copy of Lions Raw from 2009?

I'll look to dig out the online link to the specific time but it's fecking horrendous to watch

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Moore was a great player precisely because he was an angry arsehole (and he was an angry arsehole in part for well documented reasons). He must have been an absolutely nightmare to play against (and room with) in his pomp.

Sadly, he disappeared up his own back door some years ago. Training as a referee made him a worse commentator, and access to a Twitter account has sent him all Gary Lineker.

More angry about BOD's claim that the revoking the contracts would 'end the slur against the reputation of Irish rugby', and his reference to 'the consent issue' implies that he doesn't entirely agree with the verdict of the court case.

Why does sports commentary turn so many former players into self-regarding twats?

BoDs missus is in PR isn't she?
Would he have something to gain financially from following her lead?
BoD owns an agency that represents some Irish players who have a financial stake in PJ and Olding not playing for Ireland again

BoD is a poison chalice and his naked sectarianism was well known when he played Ulster

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[promenader 2]

Fair points, Rovi, but I was thinking more about the Murphy - Zebo incident. I don't think they'd get away with that today.

[Russ]

Fair points, Rovi, but I was thinking more about the Murphy - Zebo incident. I don't think they'd get away with that today.

It's under a super injunction

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[Rovi Snave]

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[GUBU]

Fair points, Rovi, but I was thinking more about the Murphy - Zebo incident. I don't think they'd get away with that today.

Definitely.

Behaviour like that now risks leaving a stain on the game - amongst other things.

[Russ]

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She's given me a massive erection

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[Tender]

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Fair point we’ll made. Just too late.

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Thanks JB , a lot of sense in that article

[Deraless]

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Good apart from the ongoing myth of the messages having anything to do with PJ and SO and specifically "sluts".

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[Deraless]

Why does sports commentary turn so many former players into self-regarding twats?

Moore and BOD were twats long before their commentary careers.



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