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Re: Replacement 10
Nuci is really bringing home the bacon here.
His great vision has got 3 Irish out halves wondering what the hell is going on. Wee Joey doesn't want to come, why should he be made to ... if he was one of ours we'd be kicking up a fuss. Keatley is just ... well blocking any talent but because he's IQ they cant very well kick him in the chugs like Ruan. McP must be pashing in their cornflakes ... how dare he be as good if not better than Keatley and not any worse than wee Joey ... why the feck would we want to start any of those two who don't want to be here over a kid who shows heart and promise ...
I expect Nucifecktard to throw the head up and go for a massive dick waving show and make another total ballix of an abortion all dressed up in a bid to win the RWC.
His great vision has got 3 Irish out halves wondering what the hell is going on. Wee Joey doesn't want to come, why should he be made to ... if he was one of ours we'd be kicking up a fuss. Keatley is just ... well blocking any talent but because he's IQ they cant very well kick him in the chugs like Ruan. McP must be pashing in their cornflakes ... how dare he be as good if not better than Keatley and not any worse than wee Joey ... why the feck would we want to start any of those two who don't want to be here over a kid who shows heart and promise ...
I expect Nucifecktard to throw the head up and go for a massive dick waving show and make another total ballix of an abortion all dressed up in a bid to win the RWC.
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Because we are Ulster, we do as we're told and take what we're given.GUBU wrote:I wouldn't be so sure.thecrouch wrote:Keatley is in no position to start demanding any guarantees from the IRFU.GUBU wrote:Have a bit of wit.thecrouch wrote:Irish Times saying Carbery has rejected Ulster and is looking at Munster.
This may mean Keatley to Ulster. I actually think Keatley is a better signing for us than Carbery. At least we know McPhillips isn’t going to be forced to play second fiddle to him, at least we know the IRFU aren’t going to be insisting we make him first choice.
McPhillips as first choice, Keatley for the bench and the games against the dross opposition.
If Keatley is the one without a chair when the music stops, do you honestly think he'll obediently trot up to Belfast to play second fiddle to a player with a handful of starts? If I was him, I would be looking guarantees about being the starting choice as part of agreeing to be stitched up...and expect to get them.
The problem with Carberry for me was that we hadn't seen enough evidence to convince us that he was a credible option at 10 - the problem with Keatley is that we've seen more than enough evidence that he's at best a competent, but largely mediocre option.
If he's being heaved over the side to accomodate Ireland's World Cup planning, he'll have some leverage if he agrees to leave to make way for Carberry. And the IRFU will have every incentive to soften his landing for him as part of any deal.
The real question here is why would anyone in their right mind in this neck of the woods would agree to an arrangement which is of no tangible benefit to Ulster.
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Keatley will be 3rd, possibly 4th choice out half at Munster if Joey goes there. His options, in that scenario, would be to sit tight and play no rugby worth talking about, or come to Belfast and compete with a talented youngster for the chance to play in the Pro 14 and Champions Cup. His decision will hinge on how much ambition he still has at 31.GUBU wrote:I wouldn't be so sure.thecrouch wrote:Keatley is in no position to start demanding any guarantees from the IRFU.GUBU wrote:Have a bit of wit.thecrouch wrote:Irish Times saying Carbery has rejected Ulster and is looking at Munster.
This may mean Keatley to Ulster. I actually think Keatley is a better signing for us than Carbery. At least we know McPhillips isn’t going to be forced to play second fiddle to him, at least we know the IRFU aren’t going to be insisting we make him first choice.
McPhillips as first choice, Keatley for the bench and the games against the dross opposition.
If Keatley is the one without a chair when the music stops, do you honestly think he'll obediently trot up to Belfast to play second fiddle to a player with a handful of starts? If I was him, I would be looking guarantees about being the starting choice as part of agreeing to be stitched up...and expect to get them.
The problem with Carberry for me was that we hadn't seen enough evidence to convince us that he was a credible option at 10 - the problem with Keatley is that we've seen more than enough evidence that he's at best a competent, but largely mediocre option.
If he's being heaved over the side to accomodate Ireland's World Cup planning, he'll have some leverage if he agrees to leave to make way for Carberry. And the IRFU will have every incentive to soften his landing for him as part of any deal.
The real question here is why would anyone in their right mind in this neck of the woods would agree to an arrangement which is of no tangible benefit to Ulster.
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I assume that the IRFU could help us make the right decision for Irish rugby by denying us the opportunity to sign a credible alternative. Recent events suggest that this may indeed be the case.Jackie Brown wrote:Because we are Ulster, we do as we're told and take what we're given.GUBU wrote:I wouldn't be so sure.thecrouch wrote:Keatley is in no position to start demanding any guarantees from the IRFU.GUBU wrote:Have a bit of wit.thecrouch wrote:Irish Times saying Carbery has rejected Ulster and is looking at Munster.
This may mean Keatley to Ulster. I actually think Keatley is a better signing for us than Carbery. At least we know McPhillips isn’t going to be forced to play second fiddle to him, at least we know the IRFU aren’t going to be insisting we make him first choice.
McPhillips as first choice, Keatley for the bench and the games against the dross opposition.
If Keatley is the one without a chair when the music stops, do you honestly think he'll obediently trot up to Belfast to play second fiddle to a player with a handful of starts? If I was him, I would be looking guarantees about being the starting choice as part of agreeing to be stitched up...and expect to get them.
The problem with Carberry for me was that we hadn't seen enough evidence to convince us that he was a credible option at 10 - the problem with Keatley is that we've seen more than enough evidence that he's at best a competent, but largely mediocre option.
If he's being heaved over the side to accomodate Ireland's World Cup planning, he'll have some leverage if he agrees to leave to make way for Carberry. And the IRFU will have every incentive to soften his landing for him as part of any deal.
The real question here is why would anyone in their right mind in this neck of the woods would agree to an arrangement which is of no tangible benefit to Ulster.
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I am not sure going into the season with McPhillips, Curtis, Nelson and Lowry as our only options at 10 is really going to cut the mustard. We need somebody to tide us over, but it should be somebody who will complement McPhillips development, and not someone who would be picked ahead of him for any game of consequence.GUBU wrote: I assume that the IRFU could help us make the right decision for Irish rugby by denying us the opportunity to sign a credible alternative. Recent events suggest that this may indeed be the case.
But I hope that in those circumstances, someone would have the cojones to say that we would rather develop the career of one or two of our young players rather than offer the rugby equivalent of a retirement home for superannuated fly halves from other provinces.
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Is McPhilips staying or is this all just assumption?
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Putting sentiment aside ... which is hard ... I see the return of St as a real golden opportunity ... esp if Cooney is away on tour and gets forced to rest at start of season.thecrouch wrote:
I am not sure going into the season with McPhillips, Curtis, Nelson and Lowry as our only options at 10 is really going to cut the mustard. We need somebody to tide us over, but it should be somebody who will complement McPhillips development, and not someone who would be picked ahead of him for any game of consequence.
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Someone like that would be the perfect signing.Cornerfleg wrote:Putting sentiment aside ... which is hard ... I see the return of St as a real golden opportunity ... esp if Cooney is away on tour and gets forced to rest at start of season.thecrouch wrote:
I am not sure going into the season with McPhillips, Curtis, Nelson and Lowry as our only options at 10 is really going to cut the mustard. We need somebody to tide us over, but it should be somebody who will complement McPhillips development, and not someone who would be picked ahead of him for any game of consequence.
But it'll never happen.
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You heard anything? McP going really does complete the sinking ship scenario ... Mind his stock has gone up and if he is told he's to play second fiddle to some D4 hostage or an octogenarian Turnip ... you wouldn't blame him for looking for a club that want him.BR wrote:Is McPhilips staying or is this all just assumption?
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McPhillips posted on his instagram that he was looking forward to the next few seasons with this great group of lads or something. I can't remember the exact words, but reading it made it pretty clear he was staying put.BR wrote:Is McPhilips staying or is this all just assumption?
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We need a back up 9 & 10. McPhillips shows potential. I don’t know enough about him, but Lowry is getting rave reviews from some on here. To help take a bit of pressure off these young lads, an experienced 10 is required. Keatley fits the bill of being experienced. He is more than capable of playing through the PRO14 season. He is not nor would be my 1st choice but neither would Jantjies.
In the current circumstances I’d settle for Keatley. He isn’t going to hold back the development of the 2 young lads & it will save of us wasting a NIQ on a non world class signing.
An element of pragmatism needs to be used by Bryn.
In the current circumstances I’d settle for Keatley. He isn’t going to hold back the development of the 2 young lads & it will save of us wasting a NIQ on a non world class signing.
An element of pragmatism needs to be used by Bryn.
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BR wrote:Is McPhilips staying or is this all just assumption?
Assumption based on his own social media I think. He posted something along the lines of 'looking forward to the next few years at a great club #suftum'
Open to different interpretation by great cynics I know.
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Good post Mt Humph On ... like Crouchie says the possibility of getting the likes of Ruan back to develop and cover is not worth thinking about cos them shower in La La Land wouldn't sanction it no matter how much sense it makes.
Jantjies is not nor should it be an option ... from reports in Safferland he can be a bit volatile and may not be the most stable addition to the squad - but more importantly I don't think he's good enough ... playing behind that Lions pack is an arm chair ride when Marx is fit. His kicking looks great at altitude ... but even our friend the racist could kick a wet brick 400 yards up there.
We may have to put up with Keatley as long as he doesn't get stroppy and demand game time.
Jantjies is not nor should it be an option ... from reports in Safferland he can be a bit volatile and may not be the most stable addition to the squad - but more importantly I don't think he's good enough ... playing behind that Lions pack is an arm chair ride when Marx is fit. His kicking looks great at altitude ... but even our friend the racist could kick a wet brick 400 yards up there.
We may have to put up with Keatley as long as he doesn't get stroppy and demand game time.
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Indicated on instie he was.BR wrote:Is McPhilips staying or is this all just assumption?
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Insty is where it all happens now ... as long as it's not Wassap we're ok.
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