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[prawnsarnies]

If only they’d been found guilty of doing something illegal, like snorting coke for example...

Which we know the D4 brigade were up to their armpits in back in the day.

[BR]

What boils my p!sh is the fact that none of these ex players will come out and say that they think it's ridiculous.

McBride.

There were a few familiar names on the petition to have them reinstated too.

Most of the squad and their families plus a few ex squad members as well

I meant the wider rugby community more than those with Ulster affiliations.

Why couldn't one of them even say "ah well there's a few things on my phone I wouldn't want plastered across the papers". Even tongue in cheek.

Vanilla, media coached, non opinions from all. Sad state of affairs.

I suspect, by and large those outside the bubble of Irish rugby, even current players, were not that aware of what was happening.

[Cockatrice]

I doubt his prospective employers give a fck about the nuances of his legal status.

Their sponsors might

Adadias don’t seem to give a feck what Paddy did..

[Cockatrice]

The sooner the bouncer has his story dragged thru the press the better for everyone..

[Deraless]

The sooner the bouncer has his story dragged thru the press the better for everyone..

Which bouncer?
Which establishment?
Which night?

Why limit things.

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[ulster32]

What’s the bouncers story?

[BR]

The sooner the bouncer has his story dragged thru the press the better for everyone..

Of public interest? Perhaps.
In the public interest? Doubtful.

[ColinM]

I doubt his prospective employers give a fck about the nuances of his legal status.

Their sponsors might

Nope - nobody looking in on this from the outside will even notice. 2 things will matter
1. Innocence.
2. Wider public perception.

We've been looking at this through a microscope for too long.

So PJ is an international standard out half without an offer of employment. Clubs (and sponsors allegedly) are currently unwilling to take a punt on going against public perception. We don't know how straightforward a decision that has been to potentially interested parties

If PJs costs were awarded who are we to know that is not enough for a club (and it's sponsors) to take the risk of signing him?

All signings are risky business, I'm not sure any of us, microscope or not can equivocally state this wont make a difference in that risk analysis

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[UlsterNo9]

I doubt his prospective employers give a fck about the nuances of his legal status.

Their sponsors might

Nope - nobody looking in on this from the outside will even notice. 2 things will matter
1. Innocence.
2. Wider public perception.

We've been looking at this through a microscope for too long.

So PJ is an international standard out half without an offer of employment. Clubs (and sponsors allegedly) are currently unwilling to take a punt on going against public perception. We don't know how straightforward a decision that has been to potentially interested parties

If PJs costs were awarded who are we to know that is not enough for a club (and it's sponsors) to take the risk of signing him?

All signings are risky business, I'm not sure any of us, microscope or not can equivocally state this wont make a difference in that risk analysis

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PJ will be signed and playing rugby for a pro team come the start of next season, as will Olding.

[Cockatrice]

I doubt his prospective employers give a fck about the nuances of his legal status.

Their sponsors might

Nope - nobody looking in on this from the outside will even notice. 2 things will matter
1. Innocence.
2. Wider public perception.

We've been looking at this through a microscope for too long.

So PJ is an international standard out half without an offer of employment. Clubs (and sponsors allegedly) are currently unwilling to take a punt on going against public perception. We don't know how straightforward a decision that has been to potentially interested parties

If PJs costs were awarded who are we to know that is not enough for a club (and it's sponsors) to take the risk of signing him?

All signings are risky business, I'm not sure any of us, microscope or not can equivocally state this wont make a difference in that risk analysis

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PJ will be signed and playing rugby for a pro team come the start of next season, as will Olding.

Yes they will be playing and PJ already seems to advertisIng one of the worlds leading brands so they clearly feel different to BoI..

[Gael]

I don't think the lads will play again I'm afraid.

Sponsors don't care about their innocence, just the twitter rage that will come from signing them.

[Dave]

The reporting in the english press was worse than here. This was the opening paragraph in the telegraph when the lads were sacked.

'Campaigners against sexual violence have applauded the sackings by Ireland and Ulster of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding, amid the acrimonious fallout to the players’ rape trial.' 

[rumncoke]

Dave

When was it written on the day after ?

Written in ignorance of the facts the English press hardly touch the trial until after the verdict .

And because of the IRFU action assumed there was just cause — « violence against women »
What violence ?the piece you have quoted is damned near slander by inference .

Fact - they were never going to be signed up immediately after the decision —

The Harpies will soon find another male to sacrifice for the benefit of the sisterhood .

The bouncers story is of no consequence — what their rant was based on the two messages in WhatsApp .

In six months the fact that 3 girls were unafraid and unmolested will be better understood and her lies become more obvious .

In the light of that understanding the messages become immature banter and unimportant .
Because she will be seen as the instigator —which she was — she went uninvited to his house - she went uninvited into his bed room twice .

It was never a case of she was asking for it — she started it and ended it .

And as time goes by that conclusion becomes more obvious in the silence of Twitter .

Of course in six months time when it is announced that someone has signed them a few voices will
Question the decision but it will never again be in the hundreds or thousands with its own # twitter account for slanders hide in .









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[Russ]

Given early polling it could be a great weekend to bring back Paddy

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[Rooster]

Given early polling it could be a great weekend to bring back Paddy

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They wouldn't notice he had returned