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Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby scrum5 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:28 pm

The Tragedy is that we're more likely to end up with Barry..... :duck:
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby therealspratt » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:52 pm

I don't think loyalty should be terribly high up the list to tell the truth, we just need someone with a proven track record of success as a coach, whether they're here for the coin or for loyalty it shouldn't matter a jot. The loyal lads we can develop in the lower levels of the coaching structure, or just head elsewhere and come back when they're close to the finished article.
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby Dave » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:01 pm

scrum5 wrote:The Tragedy is that we're more likely to end up with Barry..... :duck:

We are only just staying alive in the race for sixth place.
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby Snipe Watson » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:05 pm

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Dave wrote:The thread starts off with an exciting potential coach rumour and turns to discussing what a banker BOD is. Plz why?

Blame Cockers, he started it...... :lol: :lol:


No I didn't ..

Anyhow my reference to Stringer and BOD as coaches is aimed at snipes view that Ruan will make the perfect backs coach.

Did I say perfect? I don't recall saying perfect. I'd have Gregor Townsend as my perfect backs coach.
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby Cap'n Grumpy » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:09 pm

Snipe Watson wrote:Only a total idiot would think that all great players make great coaches ........... The rest was all your assumption.

I can understand why he assumed what he did. :duck:
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby Cap'n Grumpy » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:13 pm

Snipe Watson wrote:I'd have Gregor Townsend as my perfect backs coach.

Do perfect backs even need a coach?

Moot point anyway as we don't have any perfect backs.
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby HammerTime » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:37 pm

So, who is top dog then next year? Gibbes or Kiss? Who faces the music when the sh!t hits the fan as it probably will. If Gibbes is coming on the pretence that he is head coach/to get his release clause activated and is this a demotion of sorts for Kiss (would be strange) even if they are separate roles.
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby ColinM » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:43 pm

therealspratt wrote:I don't think loyalty should be terribly high up the list to tell the truth, we just need someone with a proven track record of success as a coach, whether they're here for the coin or for loyalty it shouldn't matter a jot. The loyal lads we can develop in the lower levels of the coaching structure, or just head elsewhere and come back when they're close to the finished article.


I should hope that whoever comes in will sit nowhere near the two poles described. One who will no doubt negotiate hard around the contracts table, and once signed will pursue personal growth and development via team success, rather than being either loyal or taking the coin, loyalty will come through recognition of his achievements and contributions.
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby BaggyTrousers » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:08 pm

Neil F wrote:That he's a forwards coach implies that Clarke is out. That he's coming as head coach implies Doak is out. Good enough for me! :cheers:


After 10 years of both in one capacity or another, I think that says what a lot are thinking. To hell with it if he's not perfect, he's not Doak or Clarke.

Of course he has a track record suggesting he's much better than that.
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby Cockatrice » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:13 pm

HammerTime wrote:So, who is top dog then next year? Gibbes or Kiss? Who faces the music when the sh!t hits the fan as it probably will. If Gibbes is coming on the pretence that he is head coach/to get his release clause activated and is this a demotion of sorts for Kiss (would be strange) even if they are separate roles.


Kiss is DoR and Gibbes is Head Coach just as Doak is Head Coach this year..
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby BaggyTrousers » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:15 pm

Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:Anyone think that Stringer would make a good backs coach or that BOD is wasted and would have made a great coach..

Irrespective, what would make anyone think BOD would be interested in coming to Ulster (if that was your intended suggestion)?

Notable that straight after the Ireland match yesterday the only criticism he could find of the Irish performance was to have a go at Paddy Jackson for kicking too much possession away - a criticism immediately dismissed by Joe (either intentionally or indirectly) when his first comment was on how well Paddy had controlled the game.

Come to think of it, Drico might want to come here just to sabotage us Nordies even further. :roll:


Funny enough, just about managing to shed my FIRFU hatred briefly, I agree with BOD to the extent that not just Paddy but him, Bob, Henshaw and possibly others put in kicks in and around the oppo 22 that utterly make me want to punch some fukka. That apart he's a nasty crooked gubbed wee shyte of a jackeen ballix.

Whilst we're at it, that Gilroy bloke looked a bit dangerous, wonder would he be interested in playing for Ulster :scratch:
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby BaggyTrousers » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:17 pm

Cockatrice wrote:
HammerTime wrote:So, who is top dog then next year? Gibbes or Kiss? Who faces the music when the sh!t hits the fan as it probably will. If Gibbes is coming on the pretence that he is head coach/to get his release clause activated and is this a demotion of sorts for Kiss (would be strange) even if they are separate roles.


Kiss is DoR and Gibbes is Head Coach just as Doak is Head Coach this year..


Cockers, did you read your earlier post? Seemed to suggest to me that the above is not the case :scratch: Maybe I just missed some nuanced phraseology? If so ...........silly me. >EW
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby nonplussed » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:17 pm

HammerTime wrote:So, who is top dog then next year? Gibbes or Kiss? Who faces the music when the sh!t hits the fan as it probably will. If Gibbes is coming on the pretence that he is head coach/to get his release clause activated and is this a demotion of sorts for Kiss (would be strange) even if they are separate roles.

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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby Cockatrice » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:18 pm

Snipe Watson wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:
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Dave wrote:The thread starts off with an exciting potential coach rumour and turns to discussing what a banker BOD is. Plz why?

Blame Cockers, he started it...... :lol: :lol:


No I didn't ..

Anyhow my reference to Stringer and BOD as coaches is aimed at snipes view that Ruan will make the perfect backs coach.

Did I say perfect? I don't recall saying perfect. I'd have Gregor Townsend as my perfect backs coach.
I happen to think it takes more than being a good/great player otherwise they would all be doing it..
I agree. Only a total idiot would think that all great players make great coaches or even decent coaches. I was talking about a specific player in a specific situation. The rest was all your assumption.


Let's agree on Townend who I think to be a top coach.. Who knows maybe Ruan will become a top winemaker.
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Re: Jono Gibbes - New Head Coach

Postby Cockatrice » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:22 pm

Baggy.. I rarely read before I write and sometimes the safest way to get by on here.. Except of course for your wine fuelled rants one of which I hear got to the ear of the CiC. >EW
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