It's a question that does need to be asked. Do we have a pattern of more joint injuries than other teams?Cockatrice wrote:Yes the muscles get made bigger but the joints stay the same size.... but at the same time I think that everyone has a shelf life and some of our S&C has been around for 10 years if not mistaken.. maybe just maybe things have moved on and we need some new blood there as well.. out with the old ideas and in with the new..
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Would be interesting to see a comparison of the incidence of injuries at amateur level as opposed to the professional game. I suppose it would be proportional to impact levels.
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I heard a sports physio talking about this about 12 years ago, basically too much muscle and they were pulling their own joints and ligaments apart, there could well be some truth in the matter.
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As far as UR concerned they are expecting retirement..Snipe Watson wrote:Marcell will be good to go in July.damianmcr wrote:How is Payne? Has he quietly retired or does he still hope to play?
Will Coetzee be ready for preseason?
Jared's contract is up this year, but we have heard nothing. No retirement, no extension.
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Pro rugby is unsustainable.
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Bringing in weight restrictions could be the answer. Or a body mass index type system.BR wrote:Pro rugby is unsustainable.
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Sounds ominously like it Cockers.Cockatrice wrote:As far as UR concerned they are expecting retirement..Snipe Watson wrote:Marcell will be good to go in July.damianmcr wrote:How is Payne? Has he quietly retired or does he still hope to play?
Will Coetzee be ready for preseason?
Jared's contract is up this year, but we have heard nothing. No retirement, no extension.
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Heard an interesting theory that if replacements were limited, and everyone expected to play full 80 that weight would reduce as a consequence.UlsterNo9 wrote:Bringing in weight restrictions could be the answer. Or a body mass index type system.BR wrote:Pro rugby is unsustainable.
Worth an experiment somewhere in the world for a season to see if there were less injuries, and also to see how teams try to game the system
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Dropping to 4 subs would dramatically change the way the game is played imokUD wrote:Heard an interesting theory that if replacements were limited, and everyone expected to play full 80 that weight would reduce as a consequence.UlsterNo9 wrote:Bringing in weight restrictions could be the answer. Or a body mass index type system.BR wrote:Pro rugby is unsustainable.
Worth an experiment somewhere in the world for a season to see if there were less injuries, and also to see how teams try to game the system
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But we'd only have to send on 4 Daves a match instead of 6 Daves and a Cave. Our chances would improve.
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Interesting idea reducing the number of subs. There is no doubt that guys are currently told to put the lot in from the start in the front row positions as they are all covered. Think it would definitely require guys to be more measured if most will play 80 but it won't happen, of course, SAFETY will dictate that if anything we will have more replacements rather than fewer.
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What will be interesting next season is that given the number of players available is to be 41 and that a weekend with both senior & A teams playing requires 46 bodies how in God's name Ulster will be fulfilling fixtures, even in the impossible situation of a redundant medical team due to not a single injury.
This conundrum is currently perplexing UR at committee level, though it's interesting to note that the Blazers still think we have a team called The Ravens, for that my dears is how the A team are reported in the minutes.
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This conundrum is currently perplexing UR at committee level, though it's interesting to note that the Blazers still think we have a team called The Ravens, for that my dears is how the A team are reported in the minutes.
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Not sure if the 41 includes the academy or not but it does look as though there will be a need to use club players more than in this season. That will make it very difficult for our five 1B clubs next season because it looks inevitable that there will be clashes between A fixtures and AIL league matches.
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It has to Rocky because there is no way we have 41 full professional contracts given the departures for reasons of greed, social injustice/FIRFU & that Kunt Slogan, or retirees & departing Daves. I very much doubt we have more than 30 full contracts & that includes Marcell, Girrid & Hond, all more or less redundant for differing reasons.rocky wrote:Not sure if the 41 includes the academy or not but it does look as though there will be a need to use club players more than in this season. That will make it very difficult for our five 1B clubs next season because it looks inevitable that there will be clashes between A fixtures and AIL league matches.
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