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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby Snipe Watson » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:41 pm

Inst 10, is it Michael Lowry looks like a good'un to me. Seems to have a sound skill set.
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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby bazzaj » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:42 pm

In fairness they did offload but when their 10 went off that died with him shammers.
He was looking to do it but no support players were buying into it.
The other 2 offloads were to a guy directly hit into touch.
Right to do it wrong place.
I hope those Inst half backs are allowed to develop and we don't coach them dry.
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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby Beattiespastie » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:03 pm

Congratulations to RBAI on today's win and three in a row- tremendous achievement. Hats off to MCB for an outstanding performance when you consider the representative squad they played against. Weather conditions were poor so it's unfair to criticise either team for lack of an offloading game. Both schools should be proud of their lads .
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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby bazzaj » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:12 pm

At what point can we criticise them.
Is it when when they get to senior standard and lack the basic skills to do it?
No shortage of multiple phases going nowhere and backs running side ways.
If that floats your boat no wonder you're happy.
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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby bazzaj » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:14 pm

Got this funny feeling of deja vu.
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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby nonplussed » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:50 pm

Lowry looked more than decent. Kids under Soper have a much better chance of playing decent rugby than any team under Wells


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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby Beattiespastie » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:59 pm

I think NK has done ok turning out Ulster Academy/ 1st XV players to date.
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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby Russ » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:17 pm

Beattiespastie wrote:I think NK has done ok turning out Ulster Academy/ 1st XV players to date.

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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby big mervyn » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:28 pm

Inst 13 looked as if he was about 28 :lol:
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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby rumncoke » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:36 pm

only two of the players impressed Lamour the Methody wing and O'Donnell

The rest were typical school boy players lots of effort most were fit
as there were a couple of fat shufflers on each side

Inst won because they had the more mature half backs and players who were more mature in other key positions .

It is the first time I have watched O Donnell and the length and consistency of pass was impressive as was his movement from breakdown to breakdown .

The closeness of the game came from Methody winning the toss and playing against the wind in the first half the try at the end of the first half was the bonus .

But I could not for the life of me understand the Methody approach to the last 10 minutes -- trying to play keep ball in their own 22 .

with the speed of their wings and the wind behind them it was really time to kick the ball as deeply into the Inst half as possible and try to play the game in the Inst half and go for the try .

if playing to instructions -- Wells failed to recognise his team were equal in the backline except at half back .
and his only chance in winning was to get the ball behind the Inst backs .




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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby Dave » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:20 pm

rumncoke wrote:only two of the players impressed Lamour the Methody wing and O'Donnell

The rest were typical school boy players lots of effort most were fit
as there were a couple of fat shufflers on each side

Inst won because they had the more mature half backs and players who were more mature in other key positions .

It is the first time I have watched O Donnell and the length and consistency of pass was impressive as was his movement from breakdown to breakdown .

The closeness of the game came from Methody winning the toss and playing against the wind in the first half the try at the end of the first half was the bonus .

But I could not for the life of me understand the Methody approach to the last 10 minutes -- trying to play keep ball in their own 22 .

with the speed of their wings and the wind behind them it was really time to kick the ball as deeply into the Inst half as possible and try to play the game in the Inst half and go for the try .

if playing to instructions -- Wells failed to recognise his team were equal in the backline except at half back .
and his only chance in winning was to get the ball behind the Inst backs .




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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby rumncoke » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:38 pm

wet ball or not he impressed

and basically I'm not often impressed by schoolboys because there is a development space between 18 and 22 which few successfully cross .

A player can look good at 18 because he is a big fish in a small pond put him the ocean he gets lost .

It's one of the reasons why forwards are so hard to identify because there game is size based backs are skill and pace .

The reason I'm not hot on the Inst outhalf is his skill set is average and he uses maturity to advantage that advantage gets lost once he leaves school.

And the player who controls the game for Inst is the scrum half not out half and that is one of the reasons he may develop further .





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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby Neill_M » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:08 pm

Weather not great, lots of mistakes - bit scrappy. 2nd Inst try v good rolling maul.

Thought Methody would have done better 2nd half only 12-5 down with the conditions. Kicked it a lot into the wind. Very few kicks in 2nd half, tried to tap and go from own half etc.

O'Donnell looked a decent prospect.

It is a high pressure game for these lads, so one or 2 looked a bit nervous.


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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby Ocean87 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:04 pm

Weather was a massive factor especially in second half. "Unimaginative coaching" surely cannot be labelled at a coaching panel who have produced three consecutive cup winning teams.

Rhys O'Donnell is a class act. Unfortunately, Ulster can't really see that! Or Kieran Campbell to be more specific.....


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Re: |Schools cup 2017

Postby Snipe Watson » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:07 pm

Ocean87 wrote:Weather was a massive factor especially in second half. "Unimaginative coaching" surely cannot be labelled at a coaching panel who have produced three consecutive cup winning teams.

Rhys O'Donnell is a class act. Unfortunately, Ulster can't really see that! Or Kieran Campbell to be more specific.....


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