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Ticking Time Bomb?

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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby pwrmoore » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:01 am

Once a Knight wrote:
Beattiespastie wrote:My son was 5'11 and 15 stone at 1st XV level but could out lift most in the gym but he was naturally strong with great technique and he put it down to brown Pringles. Some lads are just big/ strong by design but supplements are an unhealthy proliferation and I watched a recent BBC Wales programme on steroids in rugby at all levels and it was eye opening and worrying. Should we be random drug testing ?


There is a suspicion that steroids are at play in Wales. There's no reason to think that there's "no" use here. It would be complacent to think so.

The only "training" I've had about what to watch out for in young players mildly amused me.

*Body change
*mood swings
*aggression
*Acne Vulgaris particularly on the back

I was amused because that's most teenage boys I know. So unless they are all on steroids.......

You ask about drug testing, I'd have no difficulty simply for the deterred it may provide.


I always wondered was it possible that steroids were involved in the infamous Patrick Bamford affair. Certainly one of the parties seems pumped up with aggression beyond what seemed reasonable.
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby Rooster » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:31 pm

pwrmoore wrote:
Once a Knight wrote:
Beattiespastie wrote:My son was 5'11 and 15 stone at 1st XV level but could out lift most in the gym but he was naturally strong with great technique and he put it down to brown Pringles. Some lads are just big/ strong by design but supplements are an unhealthy proliferation and I watched a recent BBC Wales programme on steroids in rugby at all levels and it was eye opening and worrying. Should we be random drug testing ?


There is a suspicion that steroids are at play in Wales. There's no reason to think that there's "no" use here. It would be complacent to think so.

The only "training" I've had about what to watch out for in young players mildly amused me.

*Body change
*mood swings
*aggression
*Acne Vulgaris particularly on the back

I was amused because that's most teenage boys I know. So unless they are all on steroids.......

You ask about drug testing, I'd have no difficulty simply for the deterred it may provide.


I always wondered was it possible that steroids were involved in the infamous Patrick Bamford affair. Certainly one of the parties seems pumped up with aggression beyond what seemed reasonable.

It was suspected of 2 of them at the time
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby HairyJ » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:46 pm

I'm 6 foot 3, 21 stone and very, very fat.

Just sharing.

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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby mid ulster maestro » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:51 pm

Just don't lean against me Hairy.
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby HairyJ » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:52 pm

mid ulster maestro wrote:Just don't lean against me Hairy.

Whereabouts in mid ulster do you reside? If you're anywhere near the Glenshane pass you can probably feel my gravitational field.

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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby Snipe Watson » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:29 pm

Once a Knight wrote::lol:

Snipe is not the juicing King!

Just wasn't clear enough for my puritanical streak. :thumleft:

In the words of South Parks Mr. M'kay - "Drugs are bad, don't do drugs, m'kay"

You're just an awkward pain in the chuff.

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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby Rooster » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:19 pm

Once a Knight wrote:
HairyJ wrote:I'm 6 foot 3, 21 stone and very, very fat.

Just sharing.

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Yes, but that's fine as long as your donuts don't contain steroids. :lol:

Yer donuts shrink with too many steroids
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby Beattiespastie » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:55 am

Great article Tighty... Thank you. It echoes my concerns for schools rugby in Ulster.
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby BaggyTrousers » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:39 pm

Tighty wrote:thought this might be of interest

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zea ... ort-groups


It is certainly interesting, and more realistic and informed advice from knowledgeable people rather than the touch rugby faction of 70, who appear to comprise a concerned mother, 68 non-medical trick-cyclists from those institutes who hand out doctorates for David Beckham Studies & one particularly enthusiastic pederast whose prime concern with the under 18s appears to be accessing their arseholes.

I hope for once that an article from thon big clampit Neil Francis is widely read for if the common view that "70 eminent people can't be wrong" holds sway god knows what some DUP oaf might do to our schools rugby.
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby fuzzylogic » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:04 pm

Postby Once a Knight » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:30 pm

Shrunken genitals, acne Vulgaris, heart conditions, cancer - not a lot to be recommended in taking steroids.

Just want to add, a fairly knowledgeable chap on these matters and I once had a chat. Basically, accelerating the subdivision and replication of cells and the repair of same isn't actually a great idea kids. Cell abnormalities getting fast tracked has certain carcinogenic consequences.


Not sure how knowledgeable this fella you know is and I'm not really in much of a position to argue however latest research would indicate that this is not true and that any evidence was merely anecdotal, there have never actually been any long term studies done to either prove or disprove the Steroids cause cancer, as there is no 100% full blown known cause for cancer.

Both corticosteroids and anabolics are used in the treatment of cancer and other such diseases for tumor suppression and muscle and immune system wastage.


But aside from that, there is one very very stupid UR player who has a stupid social media post which could potentially indicate use of banned substances. Not going to name for obvious reasons.
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby scrum5 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:37 pm

Back to the 1st post on this thread....why are Ulster struggling then to get lads big enough for the backrow, I'm more convinced it's to do with coaching rather than a dirth of talent.
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby Russ » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:38 pm

scrum5 wrote:Back to the 1st post on this thread....why are Ulster struggling then to get lads big enough for the backrow, I'm more convinced it's to do with coaching rather than a dirth of talent.

Did we not have one who made an impressive debut against the Dragons and hasn't been seen since?
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby scrum5 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:09 pm

Treviso, if memory serves me right but Lorcan seems to have been treated rather shabbily since,
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Re: Ticking Time Bomb?

Postby Russ » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:42 pm

scrum5 wrote:Treviso, if memory serves me right but Lorcan seems to have been treated rather shabbily since,

Was one of the tom kite sides indeed

I think we can create good pack players. I however feel there are bigger problems with our school and youth systems that need addressed

Players in Leinster leave school wanting to play rugby
Players in munterville at their clubs want to play for munter

Players at our schools cannot wait to give up and go abroad to study
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